The Iraqi 'Nation' By ROBERT MCFARLANE
Got this From darock and I emailed MR. Mcfarlane. Also to floow is his responces. I hope this helps anyone here at Rc that wants to contribute in a different way.
The Iraqi 'Nation'
By ROBERT MCFARLANE
June 27, 2007; Page A12
One reason put forward for why we ought not continue the fight in Iraq is that the Iraqis themselves aren't doing their part to unite their country against the insurgency. It's wrong.
Two weeks ago, I participated in a remarkable three-day gathering of more than 70 Iraqi clerics. It was held in Baghdad, was organized by Canon Andrew White, an Anglican priest in Iraq, and had one aim: Give Iraqi religious leaders a forum to listen to and engage one another. It was a phenomenal success.
The conference was encouraging from the outset because it attracted some of the top clerics in the country. They included close advisors to Grand Ayatollah Ali Sistani, the senior Shiite prelate in Iraq; Moqtada Al Sadr, the firebrand leader of the Mahdi militia; and equivalent Sunni and Kurdish figures. They arrived clearly interested in fostering reconciliation among Shiites, Sunnis and Kurds, and in the process reducing violence, disarming the militias and enacting into law a framework for a fair distribution of political and economic power. Many of the participants are members of the parliament.
Think about the meaning of what's described in the preceding paragraph. How often have you asked yourself over the past four years as violence has unfolded in Iraq, "Is it possible that the hatred and bitterness on display each day will ever evolve into reconciliation?" After attending this conference, I believe the answer is yes.
First, it is important to note that in Iraq the term "cleric" carries a different meaning than in the West. In Islam, one's personal obligation is to devote himself to improving the well-being of his political and economic setting. A concept known as jihad acknowledges for some sects the legitimacy of violence. Indeed, many of the participants at the conference have a violent history. So much the better, because it is only through getting those at the center of the conflict to engage with their adversaries that we will find the basis for a modus vivendi. And so it turned out at this conference.
The opening salvos from each of the three sects involved rhetorical statements of grievance -- each against the others. What was remarkable, however, was that the statements turned out to be pro forma and by the afternoon of the first day these very powerful figures began to listen to one another. What transpired was fascinating. Shiite participants acknowledged that their followers had intermarried with Sunnis for generations -- and vice versa -- and while all deplored the brutality of Saddam's regime no one counted it as legitimating a blood feud. The common theme was one of anger at the violence in Iraq and its primary driver, al Qaeda. But this rage came tempered by a commitment to put their country back together. Throughout the conference, they called it their "nation."
By the second day they began to focus on setting benchmarks to measure each other's commitment to what was being said. Each of the participants, men and women of great influence -- the elite of Iraq -- pledged to return to their provinces and seek to reduce violence, attempt to disarm the militias and (for those members of the parliament) to forge a compromise and pass critical legislation including the pending oil law -- a benchmark measure of the willingness of Shiites and Kurds to acknowledge the centrality of a secure economic future for Sunnis.
It is important to note that this conference was strongly supported by American Ambassador Ryan Crocker as well as by Gen. David Petraeus, commander of coalition forces in Iraq. Neither sought to intervene nor to drive the conference toward any particular conclusion. Both clearly understood, however, that broad-based political reconciliation is the linchpin of any hope for lasting stability in Iraq.
In Washington, Mr. White's effort to nurture the process of reconciliation has been quietly supported by the Defense Department. Some would dismiss such support as nothing but self-interest on the part of the Pentagon. But I believe there is more to it than that. After four very difficult and counterproductive years in Iraq, we now have leaders in place in Baghdad who understand the nature of this conflict. Ambassador Crocker and Gen. Petraeus intuitively know that a political accommodation acceptable to all is only stable foundation for peace in Iraq. And they also understand that such a foundation can only be laid by Iraqis.
On the last day of the conference the delegates pledged to reconvene as soon as possible. A final settlement will likely take some time. But current plans call for a second meeting to be held in Cairo in August. The irony of this possibly historic work is that it is operating on a shoestring. Mr. White has organized a nonprofit in the U.S. and is now trying to raise the fairly modest sums needed to keep this trialogue going. If you'd like to know more about his efforts, please send me a note.
Mr. McFarlane, a national security adviser for President Ronald Reagan, can be reached via email at [email protected].
The Iraqi 'Nation' - WSJ.com
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Mr. McFarlane, a national security adviser for President Ronald Reagan, can be reached via email at [email protected].
SOMEBODY EMAIL THE DUDE!!!
So I did this morning. Responces to follow with emails, then I will unlock the thread for comments.
My Email to Mr. McFarlane
Is this Good Enough I ask the poster above..
Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 08:57:35 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Tommy " <XXXXXXXXXXX@XXXXXXXXX> Add to Address Book Add Mobile Alert
Subject: Sunnis,Shiites, and Kurds Reconciliation Efforts.
To: [email protected]
Mr. McFarlane,
I just would like to commend you on behalf of a small group across the US, on your efforts for a stable foundation for Iraqis. Yes, we are Small Investors, but realise the "Stability and Security" of Iraq for Iraqi's is the most Important thing.
We would like to be informed of the results of the second meeting to be held in Cairo in August, and the final settlement in time. And to atleast show the Iraqis, all of them that we are Praying Daily for their success, together. Wanted to Point out this statement below that was made of the conference review letter below:,
{Throughout the conference, they called it their "nation."
By the second day they began to focus on setting benchmarks to measure each other's commitment to what was being said. Each of the participants, men and women of great influence -- the elite of Iraq -- pledged to return to their provinces and seek to reduce violence, attempt to disarm the militias and (for those members of the parliament) to forge a compromise and pass critical legislation including the pending oil law -- a benchmark measure of the willingness of Shiites and Kurds to acknowledge the centrality of a secure economic future for Sunnis.}
Just wanted to say in our own Democratic Country (Nation), that we all dont get along either, but we all TRY. The Human Heart (Commitment) is the biggest factor, no matter where we live. We are all Brother and Sisters in Christ.
Also: Don't know what all we can contribute in the efforts below, but we do have a Internet Base Opritunity to help. Please advise a donation destination:
(The irony of this possibly historic work is that it is operating on a shoestring. Mr. White has organized a nonprofit in the U.S. and is now trying to raise the fairly modest sums needed to keep this trialogue going. If you'd like to know more about his efforts, please send me a note.)
Thanks Again for your efforts on behalf of all Iraqis,
US. American
Mr. McFarlane's Response...
Ok here is the response already from the office of Mr.McFarlane
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To: "'Tommy '" <XXXXXXXXXXX@XXXXXXXXXXXX>
Subject: RE: Sunnis,Shiites, and Kurds Reconciliation Efforts.
Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 13:23:14 -0400
Dear Mr. Styles,
Thanks for your interest.
We are facing a window of challenge (not that the past four years haven't presneted their own challenges). My point is that now, after we have learned how to wage this conflict and the Iraqi leadership (to the tribal level) have understood what must be done to bring down Al Qaeda) it may still not be enough to withstand two things: First the huge number of adolescent recruits Al Qaeda has in the wings willing to blow themselves up -- sufficient to generate carnage such as is reported from Baghdad today -- for a long time; and Second the short attention span of the US Congress.
A key factor will be the combined Sunni and Shia reaction to this Al Qaeda threat -- will they close ranks and provide the intelligence needed to roll Al Qaeda up for good; or not?
I enclose descrïptive material on Canon White's work and will keep you informed on our progress.
Best regards,
Bud
Robert C. McFarlane
Chairman
McFarlane Associates Inc.
2300 Clarendon Blvd (Suite 306)
Arlington, VA 22201Tel: 703 522 8211Fax: 703 243 9382
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Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 10:51:03 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Tommy" <XXXXXXXXXXX@XXXXXXXXXX> Add to Address Book Add Mobile Alert
Subject: RE: Sunnis,Shiites, and Kurds Reconciliation Efforts.
To: [email protected]
Thank you Mr. Mcfarlane,
I have attached the responses to our Investment Forum, Actually 2. I hope and Pray for the Peace in Iraq. Hopfully this will get the word out for help in contributions for the upcoming event in Cairo. Thanks again for your Offices efforts.
Tommy Styles
Just recieved from Mr. Mcfarlane's office.
Friends,
Below is one of Andrew's periodic reports from Baghdad.
Bud
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Canon Andrew P B White
IZ Baghdad
Iraq
29th June 2007
Dear Friends,
Greetings from Baghdad . Life here is as tragic and awful as usual. Yesterday was pretty awful, everything went wrong and it was as if we were prevented from doing our work on every side.
Today has been considerably better. Due to the nature of our present work I cannot explain the details of what we are doing. Samir is here with me but none of the other staff from the UK . Today is the third anniversary of the CPA handing over to the newly formed Iraqi Government. Nobody has mentioned this anniversary, although I will not forget it as I had my 40th Birthday Party here in Baghdad the day after the hand over. Everybody thought that things would improve but they have gotten worse and worse and worse. We would have never thought then that Iraq would be like it is today. De****e this tragedy, we must not give up hope that one day things will be different.
This afternoon I met with the lay leaders of the Church. As usual it was a good meeting. Afterwards, I met with one of the families of the church with all their children. I talked to them about their holiday. I asked them if there was anything I could do. I listed various possibilities, but there was nothing. There is nothing I can do apart from going to Church. They recently had an end of year party but they were not very happy because there was no food or drink because they were waiting for more money from me. How I wish I had more money to give them. How I wish I could make their holiday have a little more joy in it. I emptied my pockets and gave all that I had. I love these people and they are suffering. Little food and water, no electricity and 50%C, but they do not complain, and only tell me when I ask.
The crisis for all Iraqis is real, but for Christians it has never been this bad. I so wish that the Church would wake up to their need. People often ask what they can do to help and the fact is all we need is money to buy food. I do not need any more teddy bears, they are very nice but they provide no help for the children. I do not need any more Bibles, we have more than enough. I do not forget my people looking at the Bibles and saying we cannot eat Bibles. I still need money for food and rent. People need help with their rent and what we can offer is very limited. There are still hundreds of Christians sleeping in the Churches because they have been made to leave their homes. Twenty-seven of our people remain kidnapped; we have no money to get them back, so they will be killed. I have paid all my own money we have no more left, we just hope and trust that G-d will provide and He does. So things remain awful but our people continue to praise G-d.
Meanwhile we continue to work hard on our Inter Religious Process. It is really difficult but there is real progress, the religious leaders are working together. Some of our key people have been killed this week. The Sunni tribal leaders were meeting to decide how to overcome Al Qaeda at the Al Mansour Hotel immediately opposite our church. An Al Qaeda suicide bomber entered the hotel and blew himself up killing six of our people.
De****e all these difficulties we are making good progress following up the recent congress. We just need to secure funding for follow-up and this needs to be long term effort.
Communication remains really difficult here due to lack of power and internet. Please please do not send any pictures, links or attachments. I really cannot open them and they risk bringing down our whole system.
Blessings
Andrew
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New Email from Mr.McFarlane
"Robert McFarlane" <[email protected]> Add to Address Book Add Mobile Alert
To: "Robert McFarlane" <[email protected]>
Subject: FW: Blair advises against capitulation
Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2007 20:00:28 -0400
Interesting Comment by former Prime Minister Tony Blair
Bud
Excerpts by Prime Minister Tony Blair:
We are making a fundamental mistake. We think we are creating this
problem;
we are not creating it, it is being created for us. The very forces
that we
are fighting in Iraq, which are basically al-Qaeda doing the suicide
bombing, including the bombing of that shrine, deliberately to provoke
sectarian conflict, the elements of the Iranian regime who are backing
the
Muqtada al-Sadr people down in Basra, these are the elements that we
are
fighting in Afghanistan, that we are fighting everywhere, if we do not
stand
up and fight them back, and at some point in time we are going to have
to,
they are going to get stronger. What they now believe is that they can
give
us, and the politicians who are democratically elected in the West,
such a
serious problem, in terms of the destruction and carnage that they are
able
to cause, that we will lose our will and fall away.
As we began to get the country on its feet, as they started to make
preparations for democracy, then of course the people who were fighting
suddenly realised, "If you let these guys succeed here, how do we
manage to
get across our case? How can we say that the purpose of the West and
America
is to oppress the Muslim world if actually Muslims for the first time
in
Iraq and Afghanistan are getting the right to vote", it is a difficult
argument to make.
I am in a position where I do not write what is on my tombstone, other
people do. I do not know what they will do. What I do know is that if
we end
up saying that because these people are committing these acts of
terrorism
in Iraq or Afghanistan that we should not have done the removal of
Saddam or
the removal of the Taliban, then we are making a fundamental mistake
about
our own future, about security, about the values we should be defending
in
the world. We cannot be in a situation where the harder they fight us
the
less our will is to succeed. If we are not careful, we will be in that
situation.
I think we will have difficulty defeating this terrorism until we stop
buying a little way into its argument, or even quite a long way into
its
argument. I was stopped by someone the other day who said to me, "Look
at
all these people who are dying in Iraq", and I said to them, "We are
not
killing them." How can we be said to be oppressing the ordinary Muslim
on
the street when if the violence - perpetrated incidentally by other
Muslims
on Muslims - stopped we would be able to get the country on its feet,
it is
a prosperous, wealthy country and its people would prosper? My point
is, I
do not dispute that on the Arab street there is a lot hatred of the
West,
but my point is you are not going to defeat that until you challenge
it.
Update From Mr. McFarlane
To: "Tommy"
From: "Robedert McFarlane"
Subject: FW: Cairo Meeting
Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2007 12:55:28 -0400
Friends,
I posed the question to Andrew "Will the Egyptian Government accept
Shia
participation (there is a formal edict against it)?" Also what level or
participation do you expect?
The answer (below) is very encouraging.
Best regards,
Bud
-----Original Message-----
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Of
Canon Andrew P B White
Sent: Saturday, July 07, 2007 12:07 PM
To: [email protected]
Cc: XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
Subject: RE: Cairo
Dear Bud,
The Eyptian Government is in regulat contact with us and they are
certainly
willing for Shia to go. At the moment it looks as if the delegates will
be
of a very high standard indeed.
From the Sunni Community we have:
Shekh Ahmed Al Qubasi the most senior Iraqi Sunni now living in Dubai
Shekh
Abdul Latif Humayeem leader of the Iraqi Scholars Associaltion Sheikh
Abdel
Melekh Sadi The most senior Sunni leader in Iraq
From the Shiah Community
Shekh Fateh (very close to Sistani)
Ayatollah Abu Ra Geef
Sayed Mohmed Riddah Sistanis son
Ayatollah Al Hakim (Head of SCIRI)
I am meeting with Muqtada Al Sader's most senior people this week so I
hope
one of them will come. I am also certain that either the Assyrian or
Arminian Archbishop of Baghdad will come. So it will be a very high
level
delegation.
Sheikh Fateh, Chaplain Hoyt and I had a very good meeting with General
Scott
today. He is very supportive and we shared the things I mentioned in
the
previous email. All of the above will bring somebody with them.
Blessings
Andrew