Lets try it again "shall we?" -> I AM NOT A LIAR

RUMOR SECTION SET ON HOLD TO WE FIND A SOLUTION.

You will only be able to read whats there already, but not post anything new to the rumor forum, to this here is solved.. It can happen today, or in a week. Depending on how many of you take part. Hell i will shut down all the dinar forum and keep only this thread open if i have to do that to get the attention of all dinar investors on this forum.

There is no way out for any MOB vb CULT on this forum..

I JUST NEED YOU GUYS TO COME HERE AND HELP SOLVE THIS.
I DONT CARE IF THE "LEADERS" Aren't around. Its the masses that has to speak. That means you toooooooooooo".

Listening...

admin

Hi Marek,

My input to this is that this may be a feasible solution, as a last resort. The main problem I see here is, with the mentality of some, they may start 'crying' for their own sections as well. Some may be OK with this while others may view it as a backroom 'private' club of sorts...then, I'm afraid, more issues may arise. This is your forum and we are guests "in your house" so I believe you should handle this as you see fit. This is just my opinion. I am here for the long-haul no matter what. I try to behave myself and play nicely with everyone so I don't get tossed out of the sandbox. I have learned a lot from everyone here about this investment and plan to stick around to the end. Personally, I like the suggestion Rfx laid out and I think it may work. The only problem I see with that suggestion is a possible flooding of the mods'/admins' inboxes from so many bringing attention to outright bashing posts as well as the ones that could possibly become problematic postings.

Just my opinions (and I seem to be full of them today)...LOL

Patty

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Originally Posted by Admin

RUMOR SECTION SET ON HOLD TO WE FIND A SOLUTION.

You will only be able to read whats there already, but not post anything new to the rumor forum, to this here is solved.. It can happen today, or in a week. Depending on how many of you take part. Hell i will shut down all the dinar forum and keep only this thread open if i have to do that to get the attention of all dinar investors on this forum.

There is no way out for any MOB vb CULT on this forum..

I JUST NEED YOU GUYS TO COME HERE AND HELP SOLVE THIS.
I DONT CARE IF THE "LEADERS" Aren't around. Its the masses that has to speak. That means you toooooooooooo".

Listening...

admin

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I sent you a pm early this morning...

I think i will cast a vote very soon. And let all vote for 24h.

Help me get some voting options up please...And we take it from the majority rules and place our dinar policy based on what the majority wants.

Give me please 5-10 option i can post in a DINAR FORUM VOTE that is fair..

Waiting
admin

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Originally Posted by Admin

There might be one solution to this all.

WE GIVE SGS's & RR and anyother GROUP a SECOND RUMOR SECTION forum folder, WITH A SPECIAL PASSWORD SET BY their leaders, SO THAT THEY CAN GO ON WITH THE SORT OF POSTING THEY LIKE...

ONLY THEIR GROUPS TRUSTED MEMBERS WILL THEN BE LET INN TO SHARE THE NEW RUMORS THAT ARE OUT.. THIS WILL STOP THOSE THAT DON'T LIKE THE RUMOR POSTS.. If anyone as much as copy paste any sections of that news on the rest of rc forum, then you have just qualified for a ban.

BUT ITS NOT A REAL SOLUTION, I WOULD SAY, its an option.. This still does not stop the clashes on MOB vs CULT!
You guys let me know.

admin

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I do not like the idea of separate or 'priviledged" threads. Anyone who visits this forum should be able to read any info on the Dinar. I believe that would further encourage the "cult" mentality.

I believe lglwzd's suggestion was excellent. Simply leave the rumor section for viewing only...No comments except for updates or additional info/comments by the author of any particular rumor thread. That eliminates over 90% of the bickering and fighting in here.

For the life of me, I cannot understand why those who do not like rumors, cannot simply avoid the rumor section. In my opinion, they are deliberately looking to cause trouble and ill will.

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Originally Posted by Admin

There might be one solution to this all.

WE GIVE SGS's & RR and anyother GROUP a SECOND RUMOR SECTION forum folder, WITH A SPECIAL PASSWORD SET BY their leaders, SO THAT THEY CAN GO ON WITH THE SORT OF POSTING THEY LIKE...

ONLY THEIR GROUPS TRUSTED MEMBERS WILL THEN BE LET INN TO SHARE THE NEW RUMORS THAT ARE OUT.. THIS WILL STOP THOSE THAT DON'T LIKE THE RUMOR POSTS.. If anyone as much as copy paste any sections of that news on the rest of rc forum, then you have just qualified for a ban.

BUT ITS NOT A REAL SOLUTION, I WOULD SAY, its an option.. This still does not stop the clashes on MOB vs CULT!
You guys let me know.

admin

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Yes this is a good idea, kind of like the Chat Room people, who your trying to clean out and insist on calling a cult.( Which it is absolutly NOT ) Sorry Admin, but that is a very bad idea. I know your tired. You may want to re-think on this one. JMHO of course. As I have stated, your site, you run it the way you see fit.

Gloribee

Personally I like the rumor section, the only thing I and a
few hundred other members have asked is that the ones that disagree with
any of the rumors is to please state why they think that it couldn't happen
the way the rumor poster has stated instead of just replying with a hatred
statement or accusing that member of making up the rumor.

It would be so much less offensive if the non-believer would have said:

"I'm not sure if the RV will happen then because they haven't finished this
law or they haven't implemented such and such but I guess anything can
happen so we will soon find out."

I think getting different views on any subject is a very good thing, but one
must remain in control of their words and actions or suffer the consequences.

If a member can not follow the TOS then undoubtedly they should be banned
and I am greatfull that it is getting taken care of.

Thank you, lewscrew

DINAR FORUM PLACED ON HOLD TO WE GET THE RIGHT MOOD SET HERE FOR THE FURTURE!

ONLY ONE WAY OUT NOW..
A SOLUTION:..


ADMIN

Why was a rumor thread started in the first place? Probably becasue people had information that needed to be posted that was just that rumors, speculations, passed on from one person down to another and this information was not fact so it needed a place to be. Rumors help give hope sometimes. Rumors also help us to dig hard to find facts. People need to remember that rumors are just that Rumors and facts are just facts. If your sceptical do your own research and bring in your own informaton with fact to prove it. Post those in the right thread not in the rumor thread. You need the Rumor thread for this other information.
So to finish, as I think (this is a rumor until proven) the dinar gals would say: If you don't like the crap don't eat the carp!:yak::fryingpan

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RUMOR SECTION SET ON HOLD TO WE FIND A SOLUTION.

You will only be able to read whats there already, but not post anything new to the rumor forum, to this here is solved.. It can happen today, or in a week. Depending on how many of you take part. Hell i will shut down all the dinar forum and keep only this thread open if i have to do that to get the attention of all dinar investors on this forum.

There is no way out for any MOB vb CULT on this forum..

I JUST NEED YOU GUYS TO COME HERE AND HELP SOLVE THIS.
I DONT CARE IF THE "LEADERS" Aren't around. Its the masses that has to speak. That means you toooooooooooo".

Listening...

admin

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Why close the rumor section?

Someone may have a hot rumor tonight, which may come true :biggrin:

Quoted by Admin:
ROLCLUB WILL BE A FAIR PLACE FOR ALL TO BE, WHERE ALL WILL HAVE THE RIGHT TO DISAGREE SHOWN WITH RESPECT FOR ALL.

I've been reading these posts all day today trying to think of what I may be able to add. Admin, the quote from you above hits the nail on the head. The forums needs to be fair and equal for all. Same rules apply for everybody. It should not be ok for anybody to hurt, yell at, bash anybody on these forums - whether a "group leader" or "neysayer" or "yeasayer" or "lurker" - - everybody should be equal.

I believe, by reading a LOT on RCs boards, that that's not always the case. Mutual respect and maturity is needed on all levels here.

I absolutely do not think that the Rumours section of RC should be taken away. I enjoy rumours as much as the next person...but perhaps the way in which the rumour is communicated needs to be changed. Sometimes it's not "what" you say, but the "way" you say it.

I don't know, just my thoughts. Thanks, Admin, for trying to straighten it all out. Since I'm not in any particular "group," I thought maybe it would be helpful to get a view from someone on the outside looking in.

I DO love the rumours, though. Just hate when all the bickering starts.
Angie

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Why close the rumor section?

Someone may have a hot rumor tonight, which may come true :biggrin:

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:smiley: got to kill the MOB's and CULT mentality around here. Thats why.

admin

A separation between the haves and the have nots will only increase the disharmony that is being felt by a very small percentage of your posters.

Go on with your forum. If you find you have someone who is not following the TOS then deal with them. I don't care if it is me or Yogi ! A forum is not created for individuals, it is created for the masses. If an individual or a small group of disenchanted members are not happy, then the world is wide open to them and they can go and play with others somewhere else. Not every one in life gets along. But in a controlled 'civilized' community all must show the proper respect, whether it is too a group of Christians or a group of skin heads. It is unfair for certain members of a forum population to think they can do and say whatever they will without the repercussions of their actions coming back and bitting them on the hind end. The last thing I would worry about is them finding a new forum and taking their members with them. It isn't going to happen. I have read the threats, but in all honesty, there is too much information here for them and they need that.

Personally if I were moderating this forum, I would stop with all the warnings and start with the banning.

Marek you set up this area for the Dinars, I know of many people who felt it was a great place for educating their youth at home on world topics. The off handed remarks and nasties replies do not need to be read by under age children. Quite frankly I have shied myself from reading some of these threads because although they start off well, they end up miserable. No one needs to be subjected to the posts, and it isn't fair to all your members who out number this current group of unhappy campers.

My advice would be to leave the forum areas up and running as they are, give no one any special considerations, and start removing offensive posts and if they become to much, kick their backsides to the curb.

Respectfully now, I will retire and logoff and just lurk. It is safer in the lurking area. No bombs to avoid, no missiles of personal attacks.

Take care, and hope this turns out alright for you.

:wink:

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Quoted by Admin:
ROLCLUB WILL BE A FAIR PLACE FOR ALL TO BE, WHERE ALL WILL HAVE THE RIGHT TO DISAGREE SHOWN WITH RESPECT FOR ALL.

I've been reading these posts all day today trying to think of what I may be able to add. Admin, the quote from you above hits the nail on the head. The forums needs to be fair and equal for all. Same rules apply for everybody. It should not be ok for anybody to hurt, yell at, bash anybody on these forums - whether a "group leader" or "neysayer" or "yeasayer" or "lurker" - - everybody should be equal.

I believe, by reading a LOT on RCs boards, that that's not always the case. Mutual respect and maturity is needed on all levels here.

I absolutely do not think that the Rumours section of RC should be taken away. I enjoy rumours as much as the next person...but perhaps the way in which the rumour is communicated needs to be changed. Sometimes it's not "what" you say, but the "way" you say it.

I don't know, just my thoughts. Thanks, Admin, for trying to straighten it all out. Since I'm not in any particular "group," I thought maybe it would be helpful to get a view from someone on the outside looking in.

I DO love the rumours, though. Just hate when all the bickering starts.
Angie

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Very nice. Thank you for your view on this. I appreciate your view, and thank you for bringing a few good points ahead..

Admin

I didnt read this entire thread, but one solution can be a member subscription to their choice of threads? If they don't subscribe they won't have to read them cause they won't be seen by them....just a suggestion.

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Originally Posted by wellwishes

I do not like the idea of separate or 'priviledged" threads. Anyone who visits this forum should be able to read any info on the Dinar. I believe that would further encourage the "cult" mentality.

I believe lglwzd's suggestion was excellent. Simply leave the rumor section for viewing only...No comments except for updates or additional info/comments by the author of any particular rumor thread. That eliminates over 90% of the bickering and fighting in here.

For the life of me, I cannot understand why those who do not like rumors, cannot simply avoid the rumor section. In my opinion, they are deliberately looking to cause trouble and ill will.

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I knew that I had seen that suggestion and was going back through the postings to see (for sure) who had made that suggestion. I, too, believe that may be an option. If you start a rumor thread, you own it solely (if that is possible to create). You are the only one that can post in it and no others can reply, only read. If someone has a problem with your rumor, they can start another thread to voice their opinions.

OR, maybe there can be a button in the author's beginning thread to allow others to comment or not. This way, the author is the only one able to open themselves (come what may) to other's responses.

Marek, this could be some of your options for your voting poll, if you wish.

Patty

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I didnt read this entire thread, but one solution can be a member subscription to their choice of threads? If they don't subscribe they won't have to read them cause they won't be seen by them....just a suggestion.

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good suggestion, No Carp in that!!

Again, may I suggest moving the rumor section away from the Dinar area into an area of RC all it's own. Make a link to it somewhere in the Dinar area with a disclaimer stating the TOS and any violation results in read-only status. No sense in banning folks completely. Let them cool off without being able to post, a week or two would do it.

Or along that thought, maybe make the Rumor section a moderated thread only? No posts get put up until a MOD has OK'd it?

Maybe these ideas will help.

Thank you.

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Originally Posted by Admin

There might be one solution to this all.

WE GIVE SGS's & RR and anyother GROUP a SECOND RUMOR SECTION forum folder, WITH A SPECIAL PASSWORD SET BY their leaders, SO THAT THEY CAN GO ON WITH THE SORT OF POSTING THEY LIKE...

ONLY THEIR GROUPS TRUSTED MEMBERS WILL THEN BE LET INN TO SHARE THE NEW RUMORS THAT ARE OUT.. THIS WILL STOP THOSE THAT DON'T LIKE THE RUMOR POSTS.. If anyone as much as copy paste any sections of that news on the rest of rc forum, then you have just qualified for a ban.

BUT ITS NOT A REAL SOLUTION, I WOULD SAY, its an option.. This still does not stop the clashes on MOB vs CULT!
You guys let me know.

admin

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why on earth would any group need to come here to be alone ? I have a chat linked to this forum and have it running in the back ground. I know other chats have other forums running i the back ground.

everyone visits numorus forums to catch the news / rumors / ideas. I think you are barking up the wrong tree if anyone thinks susie is leading anyone. She loves the idea of the dinar it excites her. She has passed on rumors even when she has taken so hard pokes.

I am not sure susie said you called her a Liar but i dont have the post to go back too at this point. Another posted called her and RR one as i remember.
In your gathering of facts you posted and it seemed to me you took a phone call as how many felt. In susie state i can understand how she got to where she is now.

I respectfully submit to you and anyone who is reading

I am no part of any Mob and i am lead by no one. God gave me a brain and my mother has thought me to use it. so when your putting people in neat little piles be sure to put me in the free thinking pile

Thank YOU Angie...:cheers:that's a refreshing reminder for all before this issue loses its core argument...

The Rumor thread is an alternative as it has been but nothing or anything special gets tied to it... it is part of the structure this Forum has set up to serve... no back door entry/exit for the special breed...

RC Forum was NOT created for that special breed...heyyy, we passed through that stage when we were first and almost, sanitized by the man BM, who had a very good reason to quieten us for a personal reason...well, that reason is now part of why he is where he is...

As for others planning to set up within this Forum...the Forums are functioning as it was meant and will be after this /...no changes needed, just people and their moods and the will to accept opposing views in a respectable fashion.


YB.

Hi

Thanks azima. You said it exactly like i feel like doing now.. But letting members know and have the feel of the changes that will happen to our dinar forum..

I havent myself slept well for the past 3 days. All i want to say is for now that " LEADERS, MOB's, CULT.. You better lay low!!!!

1.Respect for others views.
2.Right to disagree in a respectful manner.
3.No MOB, CULT activity here at all. ( i will remove any leader i have to to acchive my target.

3 warnings and your out....

If you post posts like " Praise me coz i am the best- contented ever again on this forum, you will have simply your self kicked out by Me!".

RUMOR SECTION will be here. All can post inn it. We just need to agree to what we will accept of posts in the rumor section, coz its obviously posted lots of crap in here... Those of you that dont like SGS's rumor, SIMPLE " STAY THE HELL OUT OF HER RUMOR THREADS AND DONT START CRYING LIKE BABIES!!!!!!! THOSE OF YOU THAT HAS ANYTHING AGAINST ANYONE, JUST DROP THE HOSTILITIES, OR YOU CAN TRY JUST ONCE MORE WITH AS MUCH AS A LITTEL pip and i will set your reccords correct on this forum forever..

Leaders: If you seek any kind of attention, and make a hell on my forum Go somewhere else...This is not your area to mob around on. You follow my rules, or get the **** out!

This place will once agian feel like a home.

admin

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Originally Posted by azmia

A separation between the haves and the have nots will only increase the disharmony that is being felt by a very small percentage of your posters.

Go on with your forum. If you find you have someone who is not following the TOS then deal with them. I don't care if it is me or Yogi ! A forum is not created for individuals, it is created for the masses. If an individual or a small group of disenchanted members are not happy, then the world is wide open to them and they can go and play with others somewhere else. Not every one in life gets along. But in a controlled 'civilized' community all must show the proper respect, whether it is too a group of Christians or a group of skin heads. It is unfair for certain members of a forum population to think they can do and say whatever they will without the repercussions of their actions coming back and bitting them on the hind end. The last thing I would worry about is them finding a new forum and taking their members with them. It isn't going to happen. I have read the threats, but in all honesty, there is too much information here for them and they need that.

Personally if I were moderating this forum, I would stop with all the warnings and start with the banning.

Marek you set up this area for the Dinars, I know of many people who felt it was a great place for educating their youth at home on world topics. The off handed remarks and nasties replies do not need to be read by under age children. Quite frankly I have shied myself from reading some of these threads because although they start off well, they end up miserable. No one needs to be subjected to the posts, and it isn't fair to all your members who out number this current group of unhappy campers.

My advice would be to leave the forum areas up and running as they are, give no one any special considerations, and start removing offensive posts and if they become to much, kick their backsides to the curb.

Respectfully now, I will retire and logoff and just lurk. It is safer in the lurking area. No bombs to avoid, no missiles of personal attacks.

Take care, and hope this turns out alright for you.

:wink:

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One last thought:
When looking for threads to read I read to see what type of thread it is. For example, I am not going to go into the German thread without my German dictionary, current auto surfs, not my stuff. why should rumor section be in a separate area? Know what your going into before you open, DAAAAAA! Dont like it dont go there!

First of all, admin., I appreciate you taking charge here and bringing issues to the forefront that need to be dealt with. You have asked for solutions to some of these things. So much has already been posted about
what can be done , but I will try to add my opinion. I came to RC b/c I heard it was a fun family atmosphere. When I first bought dinar last Jan, I knew nothing about any forums. I found RC to be refreshing because it was a place where you could get information via the articles, but with some pizzazz and flair mixed in. The rumors add excitement, so I would allow people to post a "hearsay" in that section, and the news thread to be strictly articles and interpretations, and even a few WOOOOTs.

b/c that's what makes RC so unique and fun. You have made suggestions already about keeping rumors to the rumor thread and facts to the news thread; i would suggest allowing both to continue and

let us have fun with the rumors if need be. It helps me to take the light road instead of the heavy road, especially when a date passes and discouragement sets in

This doesn't mean i hate rumor posterers, but it helps things sink in and allows this ride to remain exciting if we are allowed to be ourselves in there.


what bothers me is the idea that some people from another chat area might deliberately post a rumor on purpose for their own agenda, whatever that may be


You have done a good job trying to eliminate some of this by removing some people who pushed things too far or had malicious intent.

I would suggest keeping a thread alive with rules and regulations, especially for newbies.

I would also suggest keeping the rumor section going, and the "chit chat" going, for we have gotten plenty of people saying that they enjoy the lightheartedness we bring when things fell gloomy with the dinar


the past 2 days or so, RC doesn't feel like home or like the fun family atmosphere it once was

when i first started posting. I think in order to get back to THAT place again, everyone should take note of the rules, abide by them, we should report posts to you, admin, that may
need attention, rather than adding fuel to the fire by bickering back and forth. Those are my suggestions.

I just want RC back.:drinkbudd

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I knew that I had seen that suggestion and was going back through the postings to see (for sure) who had made that suggestion. I, too, believe that may be an option. If you start a rumor thread, you own it solely (if that is possible to create). You are the only one that can post in it and no others can reply, only read. If someone has a problem with your rumor, they can start another thread to voice their opinions.

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I concur! The rumors are fun to read, it's the ensuing discussion that always brings it down.

The RC news thread rocks!

I know lots of you have already taken part in what should be done.. But the most of you are still on the waiting bench.

All i want is to go back to the way it used to be without any hostilities. And i think 90% of the members here think the same as i.

But there will be no leaders in here. If certain people post a rumor. YOU WILL NOT PRAISE ANYONE EVER AGAIN ON THIS FORUM!

Oh thank you so much for your post.
i love you coz your the best.
you have done so much for us by bringing us this new
We need you... etc etc..

All this sort of crap has to stop. These posters are no ROCK stars.

You make it a hell for me to deal with these leaders. They think they are untuchable... Do you see what i mean.

admin

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Originally Posted by wellwishes

I do not like the idea of separate or 'priviledged" threads. Anyone who visits this forum should be able to read any info on the Dinar. I believe that would further encourage the "cult" mentality.

I believe lglwzd's suggestion was excellent. Simply leave the rumor section for viewing only...No comments except for updates or additional info/comments by the author of any particular rumor thread. That eliminates over 90% of the bickering and fighting in here.

For the life of me, I cannot understand why those who do not like rumors, cannot simply avoid the rumor section. In my opinion, they are deliberately looking to cause trouble and ill will.

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This might be a viable option. This way the thread stays clean and you don't have wade through a lot of pages of nonsensical info just to find the updates your looking for.

YOUR VISION IS MY VISION cooldolphins..

But i see that the TOS/RULES thread is not so interesting for members here. I post it all over the forum, and its over looked. That is why we have this session today with all of the dinar forum on HOLD to i am satisfied that things around here will change.

regards

admin

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First of all, admin., I appreciate you taking charge here and bringing issues to the forefront that need to be dealt with. You have asked for solutions to some of these things. So much has already been posted about
what can be done , but I will try to add my opinion. I came to RC b/c I heard it was a fun family atmosphere. When I first bought dinar last Jan, I knew nothing about any forums. I found RC to be refreshing because it was a place where you could get information via the articles, but with some pizzazz and flair mixed in. The rumors add excitement, so I would allow people to post a "hearsay" in that section, and the news thread to be strictly articles and interpretations, and even a few WOOOOTs.

b/c that's what makes RC so unique and fun. You have made suggestions already about keeping rumors to the rumor thread and facts to the news thread; i would suggest allowing both to continue and

let us have fun with the rumors if need be. It helps me to take the light road instead of the heavy road, especially when a date passes and discouragement sets in

This doesn't mean i hate rumor posterers, but it helps things sink in and allows this ride to remain exciting if we are allowed to be ourselves in there.


what bothers me is the idea that some people from another chat area might deliberately post a rumor on purpose for their own agenda, whatever that may be


You have done a good job trying to eliminate some of this by removing some people who pushed things too far or had malicious intent.

I would suggest keeping a thread alive with rules and regulations, especially for newbies.

I would also suggest keeping the rumor section going, and the "chit chat" going, for we have gotten plenty of people saying that they enjoy the lightheartedness we bring when things fell gloomy with the dinar


the past 2 days or so, RC doesn't feel like home or like the fun family atmosphere it once was

when i first started posting. I think in order to get back to THAT place again, everyone should take note of the rules, abide by them, we should report posts to you, admin, that may
need attention, rather than adding fuel to the fire by bickering back and forth. Those are my suggestions.

I just want RC back.:drinkbudd

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Thank you Mia... :cheers:that was exhilarating to spot what you mentioned and yes, NO EXCEPTION...albeit you or Yogi.:thumbsup:

Good to see you lurking safe and throwing in good points...not water-filled balloons on those rumor mongers...which are a fun platform for going bonkers...!!!:party::noserious

Please take these poll suggestions as they are intended.
1) Enforce RC TOS rules
2) Enforce RC TOS rules
3) Enforce RC TOS rules
4) Enforce RC TOS rules
5) Enforce RC TOS rules
6) Enforce RC TOS rules
7) Enforce RC TOS rules
8) Enforce RC TOS rules
9) Enforce RC TOS rules
10) Enforce RC TOS rules

This remindes me of when speeders go around a curve too fast and wreck their car. Then they complain the road isn't safe. If they had gone the speed limit they would probably not wrecked their car. It's not the roads fault, it's the person who determines to break the rules. No new rules are needed, just enforce the ones we have even handedly across the board. Members and mods alike cannot call names or insult people, etc.
Admin, your desire to eliminate mob vs cult is admirable but it ain't gonna happen IMHO. Firs, mobs usually form because a group gets all whipped up over an issue and then rush off and do something studpid like hanging someone thats innocent. Mobs break up and go away when they think the issue has been handled to their satisfaction. On the other hand, cults go much deeper and are there 24/7.
I don't see mob here. I see sincere people defending someone they have an attachment to mentally. Defending someone is no excuse for lack of civility, use of fowl language or insulting someone. Maybe we should take a lesson from our House and Senate (ugh I don't believe I said that). They are required to call each other colleagues and esteemed colleagues even if in their hearts they happen to strongly dislike the person. No one ever gets old enough to take liberties and be rude and insulting.
Those that group together should not be labeled as cults JMHO. Even calling them a click/clique may be insulting. I would take umbridge if you called me a member of a cult and consider it quite insulting. It is way to easy to generalize and categorize people. We need to stop that.
Please, please just enforce RC TOS and lets get on with it. Nothing else has to be changed JMHO.

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The Worst Case Senario

I Will Close The Whole Dinar Forum On Rolclub For a few Day for you to think for a solution!, Or Permanently if MOB mentality will be used. This is no threat. But a fact. I can not babysit this place nonstop.

Solution Is Now Your Choice. But Mob, Group and Cult Mentality Will NOT be a part of this Forum any longer.
ORDER WILL BE RESTORED ON THIS FORUM ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.


Admin

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Those that know me, know I am respectful and sensible. Admin I admire your willingness to clean up all the BS that goes on in this forum. I say this; you will never be able to completely stop the animosity between some of the factions in the rumor threads, as much as I would love to see that. You are only one person, and I am sure if you were not a busy person, you could hang out in here 24/7, barring the meals, restroom breaks and naps. Closing the Dinar portion of RC, would not fix the problem. The people that come in here needs to check their egos at the keyboard. I'm sure you know there are folks from other forums that come in here to pick up any information they can get to stay on top of the game. And I am sure there are some from here that does the same things in other forums. You and you Moderators have a powerful hand over this forum and everyone that visits it. I'd say, if an individual comes in with nothing better to do but stir the pot, they know who they are and your Mods know as well, they should get one warning in the open forum, then the very next attack should be dealt with by banning them for 3-5 days, when they get back, they have no more warnings. The next time it's 1-2 weeks, then a month, and then permenantly. Any and all violations of the TOS should be dealt with in this manner, and ALL Mods should hand it out equally. That's my take and I hope you don't think I am trying to steal your gig or anything, but you asked for suggestions on how to fix this. I'm just trying to help.

Terry

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Originally Posted by Admin

Should this be an accusation then let it be..
I am begining to think that the "group, cult and mob leaders" around here are not interested in finding a solution to be honest.

If we think hard enough, then that might be due to the fact that they think they will lose a lot of their say... If thats the case, then LOL...

Still here things WILL change.. Let it be clear to you all, IT WILL, it has already started to be honest with you all.

admin

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The strategy that you started with yesterday was the correct one. Those who violated your rules and the TOS of RolClub were banned for the violations and the disrespect. Other forums have banned members (*cough*) that have brought much traffic to their board and yet we still see them in business without boards on their windows so to speak, so for someone to threaten to leave because someone said they are a liar is childish and disrespectful.

Point above is mob/cult mentality takes effect at such announcements.

Bottom line...


I think if we all just stick to the investment and information that relates only to Iraq we will all be happy and save ourselves alot of time when browsing RC.
Maybe if a rule is also applied to keep one's personal life out of it, ie. deaths, funerals, illnesses and other sympathies the board would be more on track. Granted, I sympathize with those when needed but please don't continuously stick it in our faces. There are prayer boards for that and a GOD if you believe such. And when a user threatens to leave the board edit their post and add a nice big door image with a simple phrase that states "Through that door there is endless space" this way others will get the hint. After all this is not a subscription based board but maybe it should be.

If Bush didn't change his strategy every month we'd be out of Iraq and have our revalue already. My opinion, keep with the game plan, for it is working.

Your time, your money... For what?? Aggravation?

All need to show some appreciation following respect

Thank you mate.. Appreciate you nice post.. Will look at a few points you bring along..

admin

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Originally Posted by notazbad2000

Those that know me, know I am respectful and sensible. Admin I admire your willingness to clean up all the BS that goes on in this forum. I say this; you will never be able to completely stop the animosity between some of the factions in the rumor threads, as much as I would love to see that. You are only one person, and I am sure if you were not a busy person, you could hang out in here 24/7, barring the meals, restroom breaks and naps. Closing the Dinar portion of RC, would not fix the problem. The people that come in here needs to check their egos at the keyboard. I'm sure you know there are folks from other forums that come in here to pick up any information they can get to stay on top of the game. And I am sure there are some from here that does the same things in other forums. You and you Moderators have a powerful hand over this forum and everyone that visits it. I'd say, if an individual comes in with nothing better to do but stir the pot, they know who they are and your Mods know as well, they should get one warning in the open forum, then the very next attack should be dealt with by banning them for 3-5 days, when they get back, they have no more warnings. The next time it's 1-2 weeks, then a month, and then permenantly. Any and all violations of the TOS should be dealt with in this manner, and ALL Mods should hand it out equally. That's my take and I hope you don't think I am trying to steal your gig or anything, but you asked for suggestions on how to fix this. I'm just trying to help.

Terry

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I absolutely agree with no mob mentality, insulting, flaming etc.....but what i can't agree with, no offense to the mods, is being told how i can express myself, such as "you will not praise"......if i feel the need to thank someone for a job well done or a rumor i find interesting, or even an article that is fantastic i should be able to tell them so. That does'nt make someone a leader, that only lets them know they are appreciated for the work they've done or their input.

I like the tone of this thread now. It seems like more and more members want the same as me.

Some peace around here.. Cheers to you all :cheers:

No solutions have been reached here.

I like the one about making rumor section a read only section. But then the posters will probably find other places to post dont you think? LOL. I think we should let all post their remarks to a rumor, but all silliness and praises should just be deleted Instantly with a big DDDDDDDDDDDDD!

Nobody on my forum is a rockstar... And nobody ever will get such a status. All members are equal and this is how it will stay for sure...


admin

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Originally Posted by rvalreadydang

I absolutely agree with no mob mentality, insulting, flaming etc.....but what i can't agree with, no offense to the mods, is being told how i can express myself, such as "you will not praise"......if i feel the need to thank someone for a job well done or a rumor i find interesting, or even an article that is fantastic i should be able to tell them so. That does'nt make someone a leader, that only lets them know they are appreciated for the work they've done or their input.

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No, it has to be like it mate. I cant dictate to you what you have to do or not, and how you have to feel. But praises has to stop!!!!!! With a big S! NO praises. A simple thank you for your post is enough!!! Rest of the BS has to STOP! You can discuss the rumor as much as you want. But no praises or side taking of any kind. No flaming of any posts. No direct or indirect attacks!Simple pure respectful discussion.

I let many others here explain to you why.

admin

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Originally Posted by Admin

I know lots of you have already taken part in what should be done.. But the most of you are still on the waiting bench.

All i want is to go back to the way it used to be without any hostilities. And i think 90% of the members here think the same as i.

But there will be no leaders in here. If certain people post a rumor. YOU WILL NOT PRAISE ANYONE EVER AGAIN ON THIS FORUM!

Oh thank you so much for your post.
i love you coz your the best.
you have done so much for us by bringing us this new
We need you... etc etc..

All this sort of crap has to stop. These posters are no ROCK stars.

You make it a hell for me to deal with these leaders. They think they are untuchable... Do you see what i mean.

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Amen. The thanks button would stop some of that.:ro_emote:

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Originally Posted by Escalade

Amen. The thanks button would stop some of that.:ro_emote:

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Not really, that got thrown in peoples faces too.

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Originally Posted by Admin

I like the tone of this thread now. It seems like more and more members want the same as me.

Some peace around here.. Cheers to you all :cheers:

No solutions have been reached here.

I like the one about making rumor section a read only section. But then the posters will probably find other places to post dont you think? LOL. I think we should let all post their remarks to a rumor, but all silliness and praises should just be deleted Instantly with a big DDDDDDDDDDDDD!

Nobody on my forum is a rockstar... And nobody ever will get such a status. All members are equal and this is how it will stay for sure...


admin

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My Friend, you say you like the tone of this forum. Well simply take a good look at who's posting it, and giving you the help you need to keep it this way. I only suggest that your Mods do the same thing...we can keep this clean, when the elements that wish to stir the pot enter, they should be monitored; most mods know these elements.

T

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Originally Posted by PAn8tv

Not really, that got thrown in peoples faces too.

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Maybe the 'Thanks' button without the 'thanks' being counted under the posters' name?

question! LOL when can we start posting news? there are some sites updating:waiting: