Thread: Tell us which plan you want to DUPLICATE and ...

Not only will we protect your deposit with the plan you choose to duplicate in theirs, but we will protect your principal in our plan and DUPLICATE the payment structure that the plan you choose.

Tell us the plan you want us to duplicate.

Make a deposit in their plan and one in our plan.

Receive the profits.

When the plan fails, we refund your principal sent to us and the principal you deposited in the SCAM. (If proven to be one)

We have allotted $100K and a gain of $20K per month to back this venture. You will have direct contact with us. You can come visit us in person. You will have FULL contact coordinates.

DupilicateASCAM

We don't mean that advertisements at this form are SCAMS. We all know they are at TalkGold. There have NEVER been one to last over 6 months in the past before not realizing it was a SCAM.

I see several here that are good plans ... but, it all depends upon the backing each has. We can help any plan shown at this forum to survive as we can back them if the Admin requests help from us. If not, you can protect your principal in their plan by being a part of our plan and letting us duplicate their plan for you. Your principal is protected in their plan simply by allowing us to duplicate their plan for you.

We are not here to prove any plan you want duplicated is a SCAM, but we want to prove we can duplicate and perform any plan shown. They believe their backing is sufficient, but we KNOW we already have the pre-earned backing most other plans are trying to acquire so they can perfrom.

We ask you to monitor the plan we are duplicating for you, and tell us how much to pay you. You not only receive DOUBLE payment (from them and from us), but your depsoit in the PLAN WE DUPLICATE is secured by making a deposit in our side of the plan. And, your deposit in their plan is secured because we will DOUBLE your deposit you sent to us when their plan finally fails. That is if it ever does. If not, you would have done quite well.

We do not use your deposit to invest and lose it for you... we already have the pre-earned funds to disburse. We hold your deposit in reserve callable at a moments notice if you should need it back at anytime.

Our intent is to perform under the BI-iii plan so we can find all the old BI-I & BI-II members. We have recovered their funds that were scammed from all of us back in 2001. This is our way of helping you, and getting you to post at forums that we can perform where others can not. So, by you posting about Bonded-Investing III, it might ring a bell so the old members will come forward and get their lost principal and additional rewards we are holding for them. Please help us!

Please Note: We can help the ADMIN of any plan recover if they should falter in some way if they want to come to us for help. It is not our intent to "out perform them and prove they are a SCAM", it is our intent to help EVERYONE achieve their goals in this arena and STOP LOSING money they can not afford to lose. We have the backing to perform, the structure to do it, and the willingness to help. You just have to "believe" it!

This forum is a very nice place to visit and post for others to see real plans. The ADMIN is reasonable and as for me, I appreciate them.

Thanks,

Clayton L. Parker
Bonded-Investing iii
To be a failure, you must first quit!

This could have some promise..

Has anyone here written to them yet..?

see bonded investing link underneath for access..

Hi mrdamon,

Actually no one has requested to join yet. I'm burning up the forest aren't I?

I got a request from someone and gave my revised proposal for a DOUBLER. He hasn't replied yet. To double funds, I proposed a 90 day payment of 100% and another 100% at the end of the next 90 days.

I always work within the limits of the trust and our trading entity and not just send funds to make it appear to be something it isn't.

Figure it out ... $X @ 35% compounded for 90 days will DOUBLE. But to do it again after deducting 100%, it takes another 60 days to DOUBLE again and pay the other 100%. (SEE C5 total) Actually I could pay 200% after 90 days, but to have some residual and keep the program going indefinately, I would choose to do it as proposed, then there would be no end!

A B @ 35% C
$1,000.00 $350.00 $1,350.00
$1,350.00 $472.50 $1,822.50
$1,822.50 $637.88 $2,460.38 You can see it more than DOUBLED in 90 days.
$2,460.38 $861.13 $3,321.51
$3,321.51 $1,162.53 $4,484.03
$4,484.03 $1,569.41 $6,053.45


As you can see at the end of month #3, I could subtract the $1K and it would continue. Here is the computation with the $1K (or $1.00 or whatever was computed) subtracted at month #3 and what is left in C6 after 6 months.

A B @ 35% C TOTAL
$1,000.00 $350.00 $1,350.00
$1,350.00 $472.50 $1,822.50
$1,822.50 $637.88 $1,460.38 Subtracted $1K and paid to principal that made the deposit.
$1,460.38 $511.13 $1,971.51
$1,971.51 $690.03 $2,661.53 DOUBLED AGAIN (C5)
$2,661.53 $931.54 $2,593.07 Subtracted the last $1K and paid to the principal that made the deposit.
NOTE: In C6, the trading entity has more than what it paid out to you. It is still there working and growing. So, by allowing others to join with us, they make money, and we make money too. The structure is such that we did not use your money in an investment and it is callable when you want it.

At the end C6, after taking away the $1K, it would leave $2,593.07 with the trading entity still working.

What makes this possible is we do have the trading entity that can perfrom at 35% per month and we have sufficient funds in the trade to get the full 35% gain/growth per month. You just have to believe it!

..... BUT ......

The little plan offered here already has funds that are backing $1, $2, $5 and small fund deposits. I just work it as though it was done through the limits of the trading entity. That makes it REAL rewards passed along to the member. Although, we have the pre-earned funds on hand already to take your rewards from and send them on to you. It's rather a simple process of giving the funds away, we just have to find someone that is willing to GIVE FIRST in order to get!

If we wanted to duplicate PIPS for example, it could easily be done using our structure set up and in place.

My intent is to find old BI-I & BI-II members so I call the small plan BI-iii and hopefully some of the old members might pick up on it as the new members make post around the forums telling what we did.

You just have to believe I can perform. Even if no one has joined, you just have to believe. Someone will contact me soon or later, and I'll let you know. It is not my intent to default ... what good would that do me?

I'm easily found if you want to talk to me.

All we need to get this going is a depositor that is a "Believer"!

Clayton
616-802-4477
The Admin of this forum has allowed the link to be posted above in post #1. I don't want to appear I'm spamming, so I won't be posting the link again. Also, I am unable to get the "A B@35% C TOTAL" TO FORMAT ABOVE THE COMPUTATION SHOWN. Also, the B @ 35% shows as a link which it isn't!

Thanks for the reply Cl8ton..

I understand and aggree with your theory.. It's important to enrichen the life of the project with strategic money-management.

After reading your post, I got the impression that your investor would not see any return until the 90th day.

This is too big a risk to attract many investors if any at all..

Now maybe it was not your intention to portray it this way, but i feel it would be much better if you could offer an incentive return of say x% after 2 weeks, then a further x% 30 days later and then the remainder % to total 100% 46 days later (2 weeks (14 days) + 30 days + 46 days = 90 days

So perhaps 15% after 14 days, and a further 25% after another 30 days leaving the remainder 60% after another 46 days. Then 90 days later pay the 100% profit.

Its easy to hold your breath for 2 weeks but difficult for 90 days

Originally Posted by mrdamon

Thanks for the reply Cl8ton..

Thanks Mrdamon, I'll reply in bold below.

I understand and aggree with your theory.. It's important to enrichen the life of the project with strategic money-management.

After reading your post, I got the impression that your investor would not see any return until the 90th day. That is in the DOUBLER if they so chose to do that, and their principal would be accessable at a moments notice, so, please note the depositor will not be an INVESTOR ... Please understand this point as we are distributing FREE MONEY directly from the trust and using the "deposit" as a measuring stick to determine what amount to give to them. Your proposed plan simply is a formular as to how we compute the FREE MONEY and give it away. They would however lose the time in the plan if the principal was removed early. But, knowing me, I would allow them the rewards up to the time they withdrew. I don't want anyone to go away dis-satisfied.

This is too big a risk to attract many investors (again, NOT and investor) if any at all.. that I understand, but with direct contact with me, they would be able to negotiate if they wanted out. I'm a reasonable man, and it's not my intent to scam them. I have no reason to.

Now maybe it was not your intention to portray it this way, but i feel it would be much better if you could offer an incentive return of say x% after 2 weeks, then a further x% 30 days later and then the remainder % to total 100% 46 days later (2 weeks (14 days) + 30 days + 46 days = 90 days
You just designed your own plan, why not submit it to me. You don't have to duplicate a SCAM, simply tell me what you want and I'll get it done. YOU see, I MUST give the funds in the trust away to someone, I just want that "someone" to make a deposit so I can use it as a measuring stick as to what to give. TRY ME!

So perhaps 15% after 14 days, and a further 25% after another 30 days leaving the remainder 60% after another 46 days. Then 90 days later pay the 100% profit. I can do it!

Its easy to hold your breath for 2 weeks but difficult for 90 days

I understand. With small funds, I can do this. The limits of the trust are well over $2M at the moment. So, allowing you to design the plan, and me pay it is simple. Although, the first 30 days totals 40% and I like to stay within 35%, working with small funds would not be a problem. If it took off, at some point I would have to adjust the 40% down to 35% maximum per 30 days. I want to make sure I am ALWAYS within the limits of the trust. I'm sure you understand.

So design a plan that works within the 35% limits. Run a spreadsheet and figure a plan out. Submit it to me and I'll run it for you. Now, although I can duplicate a SCAM with outragious returns, I will work them with small deposits, and my odds of the SCAM lasting very long is very slim, and besides I'd be duplicating it during their shortest life left. An astute investor would recognize that fact if they thought about it very long.

But, plans you design and submit, I would like for you to remain within the limits of a 35% rate of return per month. I think the plans work best if some of the rate can be compounded at some point like my above example that you didn't think would attract anyone. With your help, we can come up with something. And, the structure I have in place will facilitate it indefinately. I'd check it and be sure of it before I would approve it.

Thanks for your comments. It will clear up some questions by others. It's your plan, I just pay the rewards. Does that make sense to anyone? I don't know what people want, but I can facilitate it if it's reasonable and a 35% per month rate will support it. That's my rule of thumb to follow. Although, I am so far ahead now, that it would be practically impossible to get behind. And, as long as the deposits remain small like we are discussing here, it really doesn't matter what rewards I pay out ... I'm too far ahead to get behind with small deposits, but I still like to remain within those limits of what 35% per month would produce should a plan someone designs takes off. I think you understand.

Principal @ 35% Total minum Days
1000 233.32 1093.324 14 Paid 15% on this date
1093.324 546.64 1439.96 30 Paid 20% on this date
1439.96 719.95 1509.91 46 Paid 65% on this date
As your plan proves, we can pay this over 90 days at the intervals you choose.

This could be easily done. Look at "total minus" C3. It's $1509.917 The next 90 days would work because it's 50% more than what we started with in A1 with $1,000 (or $1, $10, $100 or whatever). With this plan, (I'd have to run the sheet further) but I could pay the 100% over the 90 days, and 200% over the next 90 days.

I ran the spreadsheet and since the final 90 days starts out with $1,500, at the end of the 2nd 90th day, I could pay 200% and still have funds left over for the benefit of the trust.

YES, IT WOULD WORK!

So, in 14 days, I could pay 15%
In 30 more days I could pay 20%
In 46 more days I could pay 65%

The 2nd 90 days would be the same except at the end of the 2nd 90th day I could pay 165% for a total of 200% and 100% the first 90 days for a GROSS TOTAL OF 300% in 180 days.

Your proposal allowed me to up it another 100% for a total of 300% in 90 days. I can facilitate it as it falls within the 35% rate per 30 days. What makes it work is the time frame you have allowed to go between the 30th day and the 46th day. It got to compound a great deal, at least enough to allow another 100% that I could pay.

What do you think?

No minimum and whatever you feel comfortable would be the maximum .... based upon your "belief".

I'll do this manually at the office and use a spreadsheet to keep up with it, and you will have access to the WITHDRAWAL form so you can keep me straight. You can have your principal at any time you want it simply by requesting it, remember, we never use your funds in any investment ... but you would lose your time in the plan and all future rewards if you withdrew your principal during the term. It all falls within the rate of 35% so I can facilitate it on my side.

Give it some thought, run your own spread sheet and change the paydates if you like for payments and pay percentages. If it works with the 35% rate, then I can facilitate it. Your above example left the trust almost the same amount at the end of the 180th day that the original deposit was in the beginning, so it's about a 50/50 split all the way around. Well, we earned the deposit at almost 100%, and you got a 300% reward directly from the trust funds.

Kindest Regards,

Clayton L. Parker
616-802-4477
The link is in the top post.

Hey Cl8ton.. Thanks again for the reply.

I'll send you a spreadsheet when I have a day off again.. I want to run a few simulations and see which one would suit us both.

Then I'll present the offer to you and we can talk.

Attention all readers.. Have you got 5 minutes to spare to post a few possibilities in the thread here.

Many minds make good ideas

Cl8ton I'l be in touch..

Folks,

I set up the BI-iii Triple your Money in 180 days based upon the above percentages. Once we (you and others) finalize the payment schedule and design that you want that I can assure of being a success based upon a 35% rate, and can be assured I can facilitate the proposed plan based upon the limits of the trust, I'll change it at the site, or set up a new one for this venture.

I want to keep the BI-iii name because as we grow and get known, I'm hoping to find the old BI-I & BI-II members so I can refund them their lost principal way back when we ALL were scammed. Help me in this aspect.

COME UP WITH A NAME ... My suggestions and desires are stated in this thread.

I could name it "Baby-PIPS" since it appears to be similar. And, again with the structure I have set up and in place, as long as I worked within the limits of the trust, it would NEVER fail .... GUARANTEED! It's legal in all aspects and overseen by a federal judge. I have a very prominent law firm that is watching what I do as well.

Run some spreadsheets, stay within a 35% per month growth, and I can assure any design you do will work.

One word of caution ... At the end of the spreadsheet, you MUST allow a growth to the trust so it will continue to grow or I will have to adjust it. Please keep that in mind so the trust will continue to grow for all of us, and we can hold in reserve the DEPOSITS that are made in the future so no one will be at risk.

If you folks are serious about this, I'll allow the structure already set up to facilitate the plan you design.

Write me: (To avoid spam, write me from the site): TripleYourMoney

Hi Cl8ton...

You ask for others to come up with a new designed plan However the one you show as example looks good to me. It provides 200% return Plus 100% for principal back in 180 days. This apparently falls within the ability you can perform. So the way I see it.. a different plan design might simply rearrange the payback timming but overall results would have to be about the same. Therefore I vote for the plan you are offering. Looks good to me as they say.

As for your other request.. to come up with a NAME for the plan. I heard of BI-I and BI-II bevore so I see the benefit of using BI-iii to maybe find old members you mention. However since your plan is so very unique and I've not seen anything like it before perhaps a Nick Name in addition to BI-iii is appropriate. My suggestion for nick-name is:

TYM180

The above for those less astute translates to:
Tripple Your Money in 180 days.!!!!

The full name might become:

BI-iii's TYM180 PLAN.

Count me in as one of first to join..

Thanks for the clever new kind of plan..

Proberts123

Originally Posted by cl8ton

Folks,

I set up the BI-iii Triple your Money in 180 days based upon the above percentages. Once we (you and others) finalize the payment schedule and design that you want that I can assure of being a success based upon a 35% rate, and can be assured I can facilitate the proposed plan based upon the limits of the trust, I'll change it at the site, or set up a new one for this venture.

I want to keep the BI-iii name because as we grow and get known, I'm hoping to find the old BI-I & BI-II members so I can refund them their lost principal way back when we ALL were scammed. Help me in this aspect.

COME UP WITH A NAME ... My suggestions and desires are stated in this thread.

I could name it "Baby-PIPS" since it appears to be similar. And, again with the structure I have set up and in place, as long as I worked within the limits of the trust, it would NEVER fail .... GUARANTEED! It's legal in all aspects and overseen by a federal judge. I have a very prominent law firm that is watching what I do as well.

Run some spreadsheets, stay within a 35% per month growth, and I can assure any design you do will work.

One word of caution ... At the end of the spreadsheet, you MUST allow a growth to the trust so it will continue to grow or I will have to adjust it. Please keep that in mind so the trust will continue to grow for all of us, and we can hold in reserve the DEPOSITS that are made in the future so no one will be at risk.

If you folks are serious about this, I'll allow the structure already set up to facilitate the plan you design.

Write me: (To avoid spam, write me from the site): TripleYourMoney

Hi cl8ton --

I just found my way to your new thread here following a link from the site.

As I said in the message I left you there yesterday, as an existing member of your group, I am excited about what you are doing here and I would like to participate in BOTH the TYM180 and the Back-Up Plan Duplicating Other Programs -- if that's within the intent of your vision.

Regarding the Duplicate Plan, who wouldn't be happy to get paid Double Cash Flow from what they might have been trying to do anyway -- and it's better than that because you are offering the guarantee of principal in case the worst happens -- that's the missing component of 99.9% of programs available on-line.

For the BI-iii TYM180 Plan -- my take is that the progressive structure already outlined is attractive and seems to fit well with the 35% mandate. Once the word gets around on Tripling Your Money with a rock-solid guarantee in a way that's not even an investment, you may have to cap or limit the participation because everybody will be homing in on this with deposits (yes deposits -- NOT investments) in hand.

I sent you a couple of clarifying questions via the site e-mail link yesterday -- I'll look forward to your reply and then would like to get started.

Thanks,

mr1mij
(Initials JN in your files -- I'm in C4Free)

Hi JN,

I've had quite a few e-mails to the Bi-iii e-mail and all have said they like the BI-iii TYN180 schedule. I have set it at
15th day - 15%
45th day - 20%
90th dat - 65% This works very well and is within the parameters of the trust and the trading entities ability to perfrom.

The 2nd 90 days is the same except I'll add 100% along with the 90 day 65% that is shown above. That give you your principal PLUS 200% and your principal is callable if you should need it prior to the end of the term.

I'd like you to post at Talk Gold if you will (everybody post there), they didn't like the "Duplicate a SCAM promoted at TalkGold.com" link that I posted so I was banned. I don't know why? Duh!

Anyway, it's true that the structure set up will support the proposed plan that you folks are designing. If you want to change it, run a spreadsheet and use a 35% per month rate and design it the way you want. Once it is approved by everyeone and you are ready to start, I'll start it.

And, if someone wants to design their own percentages using the limits that are set, I'll facilitate it as well. I have set up a withdrawal site, and you can keep me straight as to what is owed you in your plan. I'll have Sharmyn keep up with it and get you paid. We'll use a debit credit card and send it to you and we will load it for as long as you are in the plan, then you can send it back to us and we'll send it to someone else. I have 200 on order now, so we will be ready to start by the 1st of April.

Please note, if someone wants to deposit more than the maximim of $2,000, they will have to visit me face-to-face and let me work out a schedule for them that they want.

I'm very capable of duplicating what PIPS tried to do with the wrong kind of backing, our structure is setup correct, we have a couple of million in the trust with no previous commitments, and we are ahead much more than anything else you will find on the net.

I'm expecting another $3M or so from the Lloyd's litigation which is going to court June 5th. You can read about it at: meritquest.info

I'll be making a trip to TN in a couple of weeks to get some lawyer fees taken care of for Mr. Harris.

You will just have to "believe" what I'm telling you. And, the more you read about what I say, sooner or later, you will find that I have said nothing except the TRUTH. I have no reason to lie!

I'm easily accessable (most of the time) at 616-802-4477 and Sharmyn is always available at: 601-389-2036

And, again ... We are ready to start the BI-iii-TYM180 plan anytime anyone wants to deposit $10 or more.

I won't post a link as the ADMIN of this forum has allowed it to be posted above already.

Together we can change the hyip arena ... that is if you want to help ....

Thanks for your kind post in this thread, and thank you Admin, And, don't forget to make a post at TG for me referring them to the link posted in the 1st post. Let's spread around something real that is capable of performing indefinately.

Clayton L. Parker, Signatory Authority over
The Believers Trust & The SAM Group, Company
P.S. People always ask what "SAM" stand for ... Secured Asset Management
I can say that legally because the structure was set up correct by a very prominent law firm and the trust is overseen by a federal judge. You just have to "believe" it! That's why "I" named it The "Believers" Trust to begin with.