Hello Admin.
For me the portals looks like the best idea and I will look at the others as possibilities. Thanks for the notice.
larvik3
Hello Admin.
For me the portals looks like the best idea and I will look at the others as possibilities. Thanks for the notice.
larvik3
We can not take more then 1000-2000 investors into this. These people would have the possibility to own parts of something larger, and a growing company, that could pay very very well in due time.
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You stated the above to be the number of members you will allow to invest in this portal project. Yet, in your last post, you state we have 20,150+ members. What will be the deciding factor as to which members will be allowed to become investors?
When we have a budget we can work with, thats when we dont take more investors for the first portal. But when we then wish to go ahead with futher portals in other countries, thats when we will let more investors inn.
This is not a hyip. We only take that many investors as we need, and can work with.
marek
Thank you kindly for researching, did you know that they are starting to produce bio-diesel from various products like maize and sugarcane. To my mind this is going to be a very profitable investment in the near future - worth investigating...don`t you think? Enviromental friendly etc. Marek keep up the good work, if we put our minds together we could come up with something special
Marek, both options sound very good. Any way to save on fuel costs will be huge.
Sufing is still profitable.
Joe
When is the program going to get underway and what is the signup procedure? Calgirl
Hi. This is a first post for me , however have followed along over the weeks and months. I own my own business and have been in the banking industry in the management side of things. This sounds very interesting but my queery is as a result of previous projects that have been launched with mixed results by others in this industry. I would like to know if this venture will be set up and structured in a way as to insure it has a chance to succeed. All I mean is will there be a business plan or a board of directors that people can look at and have the confidence in knowing that this is not a one or two person show making decisions that effect their shareholders so to speak. Don't get me wrong , if there is an opportunity lets capitalize on it, but lets do right and not follow the pitfalls so many others have.Much has to be done as yet as I see it. Good luck.
The sign up procedure will be a straightforward process. Keeping it simple but adequate for the legal side to support one's postion as Investor and TRC as the entity committed to your vested sum. For that to be credible at face value, just providing yr name or username alone with an approved password recognised by our system settings is FAR FROM sufficient, so you can expect a greater deal of data required for participation.
That will come as well, the signup process. Those who have not or ever was a RC member will have to realise, you have to sign up first & foremost and due to the nature of approving the limited numbers of sign ups as Investors, one can also expect a new form with a detailed requirement of your data for our records.
On the other issue regarding the processing of Bio Diesel in a prefab unit as option, some may be perceiving differently from what is gathered so far reading from the responses made.
The marketing of the tank or unit if you like, is the option. NOT the processing and sales of the bi-product if you want to call it as bio-diesel or whatever fuel option you feel like calling it.
The unit allows you to prepare a process within your private confines and is meant both for private or for fleet production for self supply...
If you plan to market or let your family and neighbours to tap from your daily processing of excess fuel... that is YOUIR BUSINESS and your responsibility you have to consider seriously when coming down with State and local regulatory laws governing production or Sales to other etc.
Its like buying a Jacuzzi fit for 10 people to splash into it! You do what you want with it after paying for that fancy bathtub and if you want to charge your visitors for sharing and peeing inside that cosy tub with you...:biggrin: ...thats your business.:thumbsup:
I hope one sees the difference now from this perspective regarding the sales options as oppose to any sales of fuel you can consider it as viable too....but on your own account. For at that stage, it has nothing to do with TRC once you buy such a unit or help sell/market them to others.:ro_emote:
YB.
I think this will be the best stable program ever.
Hi Marek,
As has been said - "Think local, act global".
I like the diversified portfolio approach. Management is key!
I've been into "Alternative Energy" systems and sales for over 40 years. The diesel tank offers a genuine alternative. I am extremely interested in this opportunity. At present my financial resources are limited, however I do have time and etc. IMHO you are "on the money" with this and I'm with you! I have other interesting and working alternative energy opportunity/investments that I will get to you soon.
The portal has worked well for many! A specific focus may add value. Management is key.
I might as well reveal my true heart here: My dream involves a new economic paradigm - for all - based on the principles proven here for almost 50 years => The Mondragón Cooperative Corporation (MCC): An Introduction
Did I mention - Management is key?
A very interesting infra structure you are with and one that can lend its ingenious expertise TRC can benefit from and propelling safely to serve and meet the many sought after aspirations we shall try to materialise...one at a time as we gather along with the flock in our membership.:ro_emote:
Please PM me Jog for we honestly need the right minds to create the right Management for a challenging task ahead of us.
YB.:beer:
Hi Gang,
Having researched thousands of opportunities over the years, I have always been focused on environmental alternatives and for that reason, I would like to know more about the diesel converters. I have made bio diesel, but the ability to recycle cooking oil is a restriction given so many are into it now, so I would think this may be an issue in some areas. Most of the components are readily available, so this could be viable depending on cost of units.
I have been involved with the development of a self contained hydrogen converter generator for self powering homes, so this may be of interest to group. Hydrogen is the cleanest power on earth as you know, whereby diesel is one of the dirtiest, and bio diesel on level with gasoline as far as pollution goes. Always interested in environmental alternatives, so I will be looking forward to more technical data on diesel production units.
Regards, Mike
This is indeed going have true-time value. But can small investors have anything to rejoice about here ? A person like me can only invest very small and grow slowly. Is that possible ?
In any case thanks for the nice idea. Sure it will benefit many.
Admin,
Never been much into sales, although; I would probably purchase one of the diesel making tanks. Investing world-wide portals seems like the most interesting avenue for me. At my age, 51, I need the extra boost to my portfolio that it sounds like portals can give. Count me in.
I like both of these idea's.. Both sound like they could really go.. I am ready to join with you ..
Nerraw
HI Guys, we will have the diesel information ready for those of you who want it from tomorrow. The portal project is the one that needs most work from our end, and it would take abit more time to set it up.
We are also in the process of making a website with both these oppertunities for you all, from where you will be able to invest directly into the portal program, and also order diesel tank.
Get back now realy soon with more info on this.
Regards
admin
There is a need for good portals that are well maintained and policed, good security measures and does't sell out to the governments and give them our info. I like the Idea and I can see a lot of farmers anduck9ing outfits buying the diesel tanks. Good work Marek.
First thank you for tetting us know about your new investent.
I like the idea of investing in the Portal. the other 2 are not my cup of tea, sorry.
Count me in, for the Portal. I am ready to join as soon as
the investment start.
Good luck .
something new here:wacko: when the program will start?... im very interested to join...:banana:
Hi,
I like the Portal idea you can count me in :-)
Thanks
John
me too. I like proposal no. 1 Count me in.
I am a passive type investor, however I could probably sell a couple of the diesel tanks - and I know someone who would team up and sell more - if it is allowed locally.
I also like the forex idea and the wind and solar generating ideas.
I personally do not like any program that insists that I am on the computer a certain amount of time each day, so #3 for me is out unless it can be passive.
Keep me posted.
Wonderful feedbacks even though the responses are not as HUGE and enthousiastic like the Dinars batch of buyers however, it will gradually increase as members start realising what ythey are ignoring right under their very noses glaring each time with their keyboard!
This being a good brainstorming of minds and delivering more than anticipated especially on the options that sees various degree of support, I can see the shift swaying.....
It all depends on how one views the immediate involvement at a given period ...and against results for less input than necessary with specific devotion to be glued by the computer. Passive involvement here but seeing an income generating nonetheless at the same time and going GREAT as well... that's how some of you prefer too!
My thoughts are certainly for the Portals without reservations and that need time and a massive energy to consolidate several bases from different levels of expertise and commitments and comes with a price tag to match patience with profits trickling in!
My thoughts on the diesel units (myself a diesel driver for umpteen years) sees a huge potential on short term realisation and the sooner we get this sorted out with the manufacturers the faster the word gets around and delivered....
Without naming the source or potential sector in particular, all I can acknowledge here, is the one single interests shown ALREADY and the speed it likes to see developed on this option. With this made unequivoacally clear for this enormous potential market, I know it will simply boost all of you thus far to gather more energy to go into this ASAP so all involved can filter the funds and profits to be gain from this collective resource and supply to the many who definitely will swing for this need!!!
Let me first say this, I would also support the ref link created for each RC member to have and with this link used for all orders placed, all orders/dispatch can commence and the sales with profits recorded and payouts channelled properly and systematically and where a back office can keep track of the deals between Manufacturer, member and recipient end-user/buyer albeit an individual or fleet order...YOU get your cut and there is no horizons to marginalise each other either...its an OPEN market for EVERYONE...and it goes through TRC marketing department as always and that's where we get our income (profit to support our other investment activities and so forth...).
The main criteria remaining...you need to buy at least one unit on your account for yourself!!!
Now, here is that big boost to show just where you are heading and what kind of market you and us are all lookiing at. A big and potential market is reaching out to us with the intensity you just can't imagine, I just hope the manufacturers can maintain the exclusive production agreed to sustain with TRC ...BIG TIME!!!
The market is South Africa and it is HUGE for their various fleet transportations of different levels and we are not looking at what happens to after sales of fuel created as a bi-product from the daily churning out of the units capability to process bio diesel. That will be an eye raiser to Shell or Texaco or BP with their current monopoly in contracted quota and supply of diesel to so many outlets in just that one region alone!!!
Now, go put on yr thinking caps again and see how fast YOU can earn and get involve with the sales through your own avenues of potential customers who would NOT BLINK a second more when they have this option you offer them and it gets dispatched directly to them (from manufacturer) with all the necessaary guide & details to set it up for their own private or fleet supply!!!
This is where the bio-diesel units will be heading for....through us administratively, through you and the link that others used to place and pay for the order by him/her or them that really NEEDS it to combat the soaring prices levied down by the cartels and racketeers with the Govt's backing.... you can switch that into reverse gear yourself without much legal complications to handle the sales pitch and dealings to the end users/buyers of this unit from Europe.:ro_emote:
YB.
I like #1 best by far and second choice would be #3.
I am not much of a salesman to do well with the diesel tanks.
I like what you propose but I don't have a large amount of money to place here .
Thanks for the offer. Jfmem
I will know more about all thre, and the Disel thing is werry intresting, I wonder about shipping kosts and delivering time mm...
Best regards
hightek
Hello Admin. I will like to hear alot more about the disel tank, i am very interested in selling this produckt. Do you have more info.
Regards Texas
Info will be forthcoming and Marek will see to that someday soon.- YB
count me in
I think the portal offer is the best one
I believe that section would be dealt with the freight forwarders and each destination would have a price of its own albeit in a larger container for bulk orders or somewhat more as an individual posting to another individual purchaser... all these areas would be dealt as well... but like any other product, the exporting of these items would be scrutinized for the best deals so it won't be expensive nor uninteresting for all involved or getting more members wanting to be the go-between either, it has to be a good passive income for YOU too!
That's a good gauge to have when we can fathom the potential estimate we gather just from our members alone to project a good collective bargain for us all and even if it gets sold daily on a one to one basis... the amount negotiated (ROLClub and the manufacturer of the diesel units regarded as OEM) should be the deciding factor so your margin for income is increased and made more interesting too!!:thumbsup:
:beer: - YB.
:cheer: I'm going to raise this option too when I next participate in our company's Board Meeting early next week in Thailand. I'm sure there is a good source of need there as well on our large property with several businesses flourishing on it and even though the Tuc Tuc vehicles in Thailand run on compressed LPG... this is still far cheaper to develop and run on...:rolleyes:
YB.
I am all ears for good ideas.
But with any one or all 3 of these
programs there seems to be too many
unanswered questions for each one to
to make an appropriate comment.
The ideas put forth as is sound really
good to me, but there are a lot of ideas
that are really good.
I remember 2 big attempts at opening new
internet portals.
1) Going Platinum
2) Oneline.cc that had a very huge financial
backing.
Both failed because of mismanagement, corruption,
and underestimation of the complexities and
difficulties involved.
1 to 3 years for a return is the proverbial
carrot on a stick.
As simple as surfing sounds on te surface,
it becomes quite complex from the owners' point
of view.
IMHO, the request for feedback put forth to the
members of ROI club based on given info will not be
productive because the necessary information
or elaboration is not sufficient enough to draw
productive comments from the collective talent and skills
of the members of ROI Club.
Any money making idea with a sound business approach
and qualified managent is good.
So the question is not "Are these good ideas?"
But rather "Are they do-able?"
Please do not misunderstand my intentions here.
I truly appreciate the effort in this endeavor that
is being put forth. I am not a hostile.
Cheers :)
count me in, too
Okay guys. You dieseltank reseller seem to be very eager to start right away. I have now prepared the information from polish for the Dieseltank sales.
The portal information is beeing worked on, and we will after some meetings with the financial advisors next week post the information on the portal investment also.
We are developing websites for both the portal and dieseltank, and will host them in a week on
www.rolclub.com/portal
www.rolclub.com/dieseltank
Anyway.
HERE IS THE DIESEL TANK INFORMATION FOR MANY OF YOU THAT HAS BEEN ASKING ME NONSTOP FOR PAST DAYS ABOUT MORE INFORMATION.
http://www.rolclub.com/Banners/dieseltank.GIF
Devices for biogas production
Welcome on Internet website of producer of devices for biogasproduction- DieselTANK.
Meet a new DieselTank turbo-1000 model 2006,a new DieselTank means: new design, simpler handling and even better filtration. Thanks to modernization a new DieselTank produces biogas of higher quality than ever before.
Why BioDiesel?
Biodiesel seems to be a new type of fuel while in reality using biogas means coming back to the sources. The world exhibition in Paris in 1900 was thrilled by a Rudolf Diesel engine, which was driven by peanut oil! The inventor himself stated than, that in the future vegetable oil shall become as important as oil…
Our company is engaged with production and sale of devices type DieselTank, used for production of bio-diesel made of well known and accessible materials. The final product is ready to supply to all types of vehicles driven by diesel engine without remaking the installation (also the modern ones made in new technology of fuel injection). The technology of biodiesel production is extremely simple and our devices guarantee a very high standard of a final product.
Biodiesel is a safe alternative fuel to replace traditional petroleum diesel. It has high-lubricity, is a clean-burning fuel and can be a fuel component for use in existing, unmodified diesel engines. This means that no retrofits are necessary when using biodiesel fuel in any diesel powered combustion engine. It is the only alternative fuel that offers such convenience. Biodiesel acts like petroleum diesel, but produces less air pollution, comes from renewable sources, is biodegradable and is safer for the environment. Producing biodiesel fuels can help create local economic revitalization and local environmental benefits. Many groups interested in promoting the use of biodiesel already exist at the local, state and national level.
Biodiesel is designed for complete compatibility with petroleum diesel and can be blended in any ratio, from additive levels to 100 percent biodiesel. In the United States today, biodiesel is typically produced from soybean or rapeseed oil or can be reprocessed from waste cooking oils or animal fats such as waste fish oil. Because it is made of these easily obtainable plant-based materials, it is a completely renewable fuel source.
Our current offer includes two devices models: DieselTank turbo-1000 and DieselTank turbo-2000. The models have accordingly approximately 1000 and 2000 liters capacity per day. Possible extension of the installation for sedimentation tanks (also in our offer) allows to gain capacity of 24000 liters per day.
Biodiesel Benefits
1) Biodiesel runs in any conventional, unmodified diesel engine. No engine modifications are necessary to use biodiesel and there is no “engine conversion.” In other words, “you just pour it into the fuel tank.”
2) Biodiesel can be stored anywhere that petroleum diesel fuel is stored. All diesel fueling infrastructure including pumps, tanks and transport trucks can use biodiesel without modifications.
3) Biodiesel reduces Carbon Dioxide emissions, the primary cause of the Greenhouse Effect, by up to 100%. Since biodiesel comes from plants and plants breathe carbon dioxide, there is no net gain in carbon dioxide from using biodiesel.
4) Biodiesel can be used alone or mixed in any amount with petroleum diesel fuel. A 20% blend of biodiesel with diesel fuel is called “B20,” a 5% blend is called “B5” and so on.
5) Biodiesel is more lubricating than diesel fuel, it increases the engine life and it can be used to replace sulfur, a lubricating agent that, when burned, produces sulfur dioxide - the primary component in acid rain. Instead of sulfur, all diesel fuel sold in France contains 5% biodiesel.
6) Biodiesel is safe to handle because it is biodegradable and non-toxic. According to the National Biodiesel Board, “neat biodiesel is as biodegradable as sugar and less toxic than salt.”
7) Biodiesel is safe to transport. Biodiesel has a high flash point, or ignition temperature, of about 300 deg. F compared to petroleum diesel fuel, which has a flash point of 125 deg. F.
8) Engines running on biodiesel run normally and have similar fuel mileage to engines running on diesel fuel. Auto ignition, fuel consumption, power output, and engine torque are relatively unaffected by biodiesel.
9) Biodiesel has a pleasant aroma similar to popcorn popping in comparison to the all-too-familiar stench of petroleum diesel fuel.
10) Any diesel vehicle can be powered by biodiesel from 10% to 100% blend with regular petroleum diesel. Performance is usually not affected.
11) Farmers, Industry and normal housing can save 50-60% money by manufacturing biodiesel on-site to use in their tractor engines, industry engines as well as car engines running on diesel.
Devices type DieselTank turbo, for bio-diesel (methyl ester) production made of vegetable oil.
What is the production of biodiesel with DieselTank turbo-1000 about?
The process of production of biodiesel (methyl ester) consists of two basic parts:
The first of them is a core production, during which the components: the vegetable oil, methanol and catalyst (KOH) are being mixed. This process requires around an hour. This part of the production is divided into following stages:
Pulling the vegetable oil to the device’s main tank
Heating of the vegetable oil,
Preparing of the catalytic mixture in device’s auxiliary tank
Compounding of vegetable oil with catalytic mixture
At this stage the first part of production process ends, the machine can be tuned off. Now the second part of the production process begins. This part of the production process consists of gravity separation of the glycerin (which is a spin-off) from methyl ester. This part of the production process depending on how clean the fuel we want achieve and required from 16 to 24 hours. After that time we pour off the glycerin from the bottom of the tank, to the contained prepared in advance. The methyl ester we put into the tank where a ready fuel shall be poured in.
Capacity and efficiency of the DieselTank
Standard DieselTank turbo device has a capacity of 1250 liters and allows for producing approximately 950 liters of biodiesel per day. The device can be extended for additional sedimentation tanks with capacity of 1250 liters each. Such extension enlarges device capacity to 24.000 liters of batch per day.
On order from client we can also produce also installations with higher daily capacity based on DieselTank turbo-2000 device. The device has stronger daily efficiency to approximately 2000 liters in one cycle. Analogically as for DieselTank turbo-1000 it is possible to adept sedimentation tanks rising a daily efficiency.
The device parameters (DieselTank turbo-1000)
Size, height Size4: 2300 mm
Width: 1200 mm
Length: 1750 mm
Capacity: 1000 l
catalytic mixture.: 250
Production capability depending on device type and production method: from 1000 to 24000l/day
Power supply for heaters: 18 kW
Power supply for remaining devices: 2 - 3 kW
DieselTank Prices and Ordering information:
DieselTank Turbo-1000 Price $11000 + transport.
DieselTank Turbo-2000 Price $16000 + transport.
We would need your the order information asked for here, and then get back to you with a quote on the transport after we have checked it in 48h ( during working days).
Delivery time is about 3-4 weeks from the payment has been recived.
Ordering information will be given in the website we will make for dieseltank.
Regards
admin
I need to ask some question about this bio-diesel, do the client need to have special car or engine to use it?
Or it is the same as any other diesel operated vehicle? Sorry to ask some silly question ehehehe
No questions are silly,only answers as they say in my country.
Eco/Bio-diesel is better then normal diesel for any engine with the latest tecq! Been driving around with my 3l engine on this biodiesel for a week now.
Works perfect.
Its for any kind of diesel engine. It can be used on any Diesel engine.
Regards
admin
Hehehe Thanks a lot for enlighten me, kindly send me an invitation when the biz is up and running!
I wan to be the 1st one to jump into it