Thread: Folks!!!!! I Need Help!!!

I agree with you, Hasse.

BNM is still investigating pips, so there is no definitive outcome yet and we have to wait and stay positiv. What else shall we do?

It has never come something good from negatitity.

Originally Posted by Hasse

When you draw such conclusions, please consider:
- BNM is still investigating pips, so no definitive outcome yet about what happened with the money you invested in pips;
- Bryan's silence towards the people who put money in halotto does not mean he had no plans anymore to try and rectify this later (but i understand it's a reasonable assumption);
- 10by5 cycler afaik has not proven yet to be a scam.

One thing is sure: Bryan lied about who he was behind 10by5 and if TG's information is correct, he may even have been setting up yet another program.
I don't understand why Bryan behaved like this, either... and understand all this is upsetting. But quite a number of conclusions remain premature... Still and again, I consider waiting for the results of the investigation(s) a wiser and more faire attitude. It just requires patience, of course.

Take care,
Hasse

Interesting,

I like the way you keep the door open after knowing what we all now know, but this would have come out eventually as you well know, if not by Marek, one of the others who knew the truth about this deception would have had the proof in a few days, so why people blamed Marek, I do not know.

I also agree, it is up to BN to finish investigation before we really know what a full blown pathological liar we have been duped by, but it will all come out in the end, and the tidbits we have learned to date will indeed be verified as true eventually.

One thing I have learned over the years is once a liar, always a liar, and when you are a pathological liar, this is the worse liar of all for they believe whatever BS they ****, and that is why they are so convincing and you cannot easily identify when they are lying. No blinking of the eyes, they will look you in the eye, and this is why pathological liars are impossible to identify for most.

I started seeing this potential answer having sat at bar with Bryan and was amazed that he could drink me under the table. (g) All that while, he was convincing as can be, even when drunk, and that was the tip off, he really believed what he was saying, even when impaired, and that was scary awakening to me. Anyone else elbow up to the bar with Bryan? Simply amazing, that is all I can say.

I can appreciate some keeping the faith to the end, as most of us have tried to do, but this latest fraud did it in for many of us. The mear fact the HS lotto fiasco was not addressed while he started several other pyramids says it all. Sorry Hasse, I don't agree, he would never have waited to rectify those who lost money in this fiasco if he was honest. The man can justify everything he says because he is ill, and pathological liars are all ill. As others are finally seeing, this is an illness for which there is no cure, so we will wait for BN investigation, but I won't be waiting for Bryan or Barry, for they are not real other than in this persons head. May someone bless this poor sole, but it won't be me, not any longer.

Good luck to all, Mike

Originally Posted by Hasse

- Bryan's silence towards the people who put money in halotto does not mean he had no plans anymore to try and rectify this later (but i understand it's a reasonable assumption);
Hasse

I don't know if this will be of any consolation for the ones who put money in Halotto, but anyway, as per Bryan post in 10by5 forum, those who joined Halotto will get free positions in 10by5.

Originally Posted by way2go

I don't know if this will be of any consolation for the ones who put money in Halotto, but anyway, as per Bryan post in 10by5 forum, those who joined Halotto will get free positions in 10by5.

How.. . . .where do I look for my position??

-Alan

Originally Posted by ox1216

How.. . . .where do I look for my position??

-Alan

Alan,

I do not know (I didn't join Halotto or 10by5), got to 10by5 forum and ask Bryan, he is very active in there.