You said you'd inform us regarding Bryan and what you know. The forum deserve to hear it so please tell everyone what conclusion you've come to. I know what I think so please share the info.
Thanks.
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You said you'd inform us regarding Bryan and what you know. The forum deserve to hear it so please tell everyone what conclusion you've come to. I know what I think so please share the info.
Thanks.
Super Bump!!
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Originally Posted by Adster
Will you save/prevent those Katusha rockets from landing here or wherever when he does Adam?:toofunny: :biggrin:
Not just yet I'm afraid... coz we are still pondering the consequences and that depends on how truly loyal, gratified and supporting we can count on our growing membership.... we came a long way...and we have proven our stance since...despite all the unfounded, ungrounded, unwarranted...you name it... we rode over them and "banned them" to put it bluntly for their callous comments and defamatory insinuations on how we set up ROLClub and that our MODS...ALL OF US.... that had acted correctly as best as we possibly could and objectively... proved we did what was and still is, the right and inevitable way to run the ROLClub Forum.
When we have decided...the membership will know why they stood by ROLClub and we believe...we woill carry on further into 2007 and beyond...no hiccups, no excuses...no delays or hitches but more considerations for our membership that showed us, we have qualified their support to this day since we started ROLLING out to help you all find some solace and success with any programs brought into the Forum.:ro_emote: :party:
YB. ... Cheers to the RC CARE Group.:beer:
The membership is behind Marek.:ro_emote: Let the Truth be told :cheers:
We know we are in good hands and trust in your judgement. What will be will be and is entirely up to you.
Bump ?
Marek,
If you are worried that forum members will be angry with you, because you have endorsed something that you now know wasn't quite as honest as you thought - don't worry. We all know you try to do good for the members and nobody will be angry or upset with you. If there are any, they aren't true members, just trolls.
Exactly nej.
the suspense Is killing me. ----Where did i put my malox.
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Originally Posted by nej
Thank you Nej, :ro_emote:
we are aware of the confidence stemming from most RC members that are bent on supporting the right decision we have to indulge or undertake, when it comes to just that.
We are also aware, and so are you most of the time, that being a FREE and non charging Forum, we are an open field for would-be and now are, RC members that are also avid members elsewhere that exchanges among us all but are collecting updates and facts as well to feed their other Forum members they belong to. We can't stop that, that's a fact!
What remains inevitably crucial is, we are set up to focus a need, a need to concentrate and be home for many that seeks some form of good net income from the programs introduced by and from members alike that considers ROLClub to be an excellent platform to host them.
We are nOT in anyway wanting or showing bias or be partisan to one or any in a particular program to give extra preferential treatment.
However, we are neither keen to be embroiled or stand in the way and become a hurdle to any conflicts, that has no core involvement with ROLClub since we had it registered on the net.
We want members to view and realise...to us all here, MONEY is mostly the issue here and
Biznuz-S-Usual is the practise conducted through the RC Forum.
YB. - Cheers to the RC CARE Group. :beer:
I'm behind Rolclub! Whatever it is, I think it'll be up to you Mods when.
theBat$
Hello DesmondQuote:
Originally Posted by YogiBrood
I am puzzled by your remarks in this post about "pondering the consequences" and whether you can count on the loyalty of your membership.
This sounds like politico-speak for "lets let out a rumour about BM being in charge of 10 x 5 and see how the mop flops before we take a stance on it ourselves".
If you really want to earn the respect of the members you should tell the truth and the devil take the hindmost.
You sound like Mr Blair who has tried to base his policies on second-guessing the electorate. OK while it lasts but eventually even the English voter will see through it.
Are you and Marek more afraid of telling the truth than being caught telling a lie? Even if it is by omission?
Just for once could we have a straight answer? No riddles? No linguistic double meanings with "English is not my mother tongue" as the excuse?
The leaked innuendo is out there. It needs to be substantiated or withdrawn. At the moment you have merely cast a slur and failed to back it up.
If you were concerned about how to judge the reaction of your members you should not have made public your "dilemma" and asked for 48 hours to think about it. You should have thought about it for 48 hours before you wrote a word.
That way you could have GAINED a bit of respect.
Now as I see it you are left with DAMAGE LIMITATION as the only option.
Just a couple of bobs worth as usual,
Michael
Thank you Michael!
Thanks for the clear words, Michael. That's exactly how I think about this, too.
Marek, I already told you on the shout box that I have always had and still have a lot of respect for you. But - if you were not ready to tell us the truth you should have said nothing at all. All those vague hints and rumours aren't good for anybody. This also has something to do with your credibility and that of this forum. You made a very strong commitment: you said 48 hours, and if "that person" - whoever he or she is - wouldn't come clear until then, then you would post what you know. You also said that "that person" knew you're not joking.
WE KNOW THAT THERE MUST BE SOMETHING WRONG! And now you are abandoning us, leaving us to bad feelings and only speculations. This reminds me very much of how BM has behaved towards us during the last year. And I really can't stand it anymore! I'm tired of waiting until someone else decides it's the right time for me to know.
Also: I have seen that there are many members about to join the 10by5-cycler right now, just buying e-gold in order to do so. IF it is true that BM is behind this program, then don't you think those people have a right to know before they join, so they can make their own decision if they still want to join or better leave it?
I really hope you find the courage to make the right decision.
Love, Antje
Time to do the right thing Marek and tell the forum your news please. You have our support.
Bump to Adster, Nej and all the Rol'ers...Quote:
Originally Posted by Adster
my answer is on this link for now.
http://www.rolclub.com/pips-program-...fficer-18.html
marek
hi..Okay,
I will post this in link: http://www.rolclub.com/pips-program-...-analyzed.html
working on it now.
marek
We are just as puzzled ourselves that this is taking place right in the forum and we were caught unaware...until....
so thats the pondering stage we are meandering through...
Oh yes..as much as we ALL are seeking to know some piece(s) of truth...we are ourselves flabbergested by this ...however, as I see it objectively....the Cycler has its own good merits to be pursued as long as it takes despite fears that it may go along and be terminated should the "consequences" determine it... that's what I meant as consequences...
However, giving the credit where it deserves, it was a fundamental motivation that created the RC CARE Group...which again...has the hallmarks we all owe to the vision we all believe strongly in... even though it is heading in a different path from the original route...linked somehow to Bryan and the PIPs doctrine.
Marek will be delivering what needs to be disclosed...we have deliberated on the structure of the contents...and bear with us...it s now undertaken and over a few hours if not earlier, he shall post it...stay on the Forum....
YB. - Cheers to the RC CARE Group...:beer:
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Originally Posted by michaelr
Unfortunately, I came in late and quite frankly, I do not understand what it is Marek was supposed to tell us about? What happened? Is this about SI or PIPS?
Thank you,
peterben
Thank you, Marek!
And peterben - if you want a brief summary of what has been happening during the last days read my post in the German forum.
Antje
This is where you can follow on more Peter.Quote:
Originally Posted by peterben
http://www.rolclub.com/pips-program-...tml#post101254
YB. - Cheers to the RC CARE Group...:beer:
Well, the first hint what this is about came from someone who is usually very quick, very accurate and very revealing of the truth, Antje. Thank you Antje. Only after reading your message, was I aware of what this is all about.
Now time has passed and Marek posted IPs that indicate that there is evidence of similarity. THe rest, I believe, is very clear. Am just surprised that this person is not sure about the proper steps to clear this up.
If that is the case, then I must say, all doubts will then come to fruition to something more drastic than desired by those who claimed:' not being involved in inproprieties'. That would be a very sad moment in all rolclub (PIPS) members' minds, I am sure.
Hope sincerely, that there is room for correction in the mind of the person concerned! It would not only be good for us but for him/her as well, if not more so.
peterben
There is one thing that I want to make absolutely clear: I don't blame either Marek or anyone else of the RolClub staff for not realizing this earlier and for supporting the 10by5 Cycler.
At first I came here only because I wanted info about PIPS. But during this one year this forum has become much more than just PIPS for me. I am getting so many valuable inspirations and meeting so many interesting people here that I am sure not going to leave just because of this, and I can see no reason for others to do so!
As far as BM is concerned to me it's proved that he and Barry are one and the same person, and that he's even started at least 2 other programs on the web. And I am very very sad.
I must admit sometimes I myself have thought that it would be better for him not to tell anybody when he's behind a new program. Look what happened to HA Lotto... there are so many of the so-called "trolls" who hate him so much that they will never let him start something new in peace!
Seems part of me ist still searching for excuses and hoping that this is not a case of attempted fraud, but that he has just given in to the temptation and chosen the easy way out.
BUT ... there are so many "buts" that it's impossible to mention them all!
Just three points:
I have always believed that people who invest their money have a right to know who they are dealing with.
And then there are so many people in this forum who really care for Bryan and Sharon and who were worried about their well-being. It's hard to understand how someone can be here all the time, reading all those posts, but just ignore all the concern, all the urgent questions, and happily post here under an alias selling his new program...
And last but not least: why didn't he pay back those people who funded their HA Lotto accounts with real money when the program didn't even get over the test phase? Of course we cannot expect him to pay all PIPS members as the PIPS money is frozen, and he hasn't got the database. But all HA Lotto data was in his hands!
The least thing Bryan should do now is be a man, come out from whereever he's hiding and give us an explanation for this behaviour!
Antje