This is a High Yield private loan program that has been online for 80 days with the traders dealing in forex Trading and Investing in various funds and activities. Profits from these investments are used to enhance the program and increase its stability for the long term. There are various pay structures from 10% per day for 14 days.
Using my strategy, I invested $350.00 in the daily plan, was able to withdraw my principle in a handful of days and have been investing the profit and been able to withdraw 40% every 14 days.
Admin has been very responsive and that is indeed a very encouraging sign.
To join up and/or invest click on the link below.
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This is a solid program that will pay for a quite a while.
Please go to HYIPRANKS and HYIPmonitor for payout stats.
Do not delay as I believe this is good for at least another 2 to 3 months.
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12-09-2005, 01:07 AM #1
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12-09-2005, 07:27 AM #2
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Got paid again. This is the optimal time to get in.
From the program stats,
Deposited Total $125,940.44
Withdrawn Total $58,565.25
These guys actually post and update the withdrawal history daily. Have a look at
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You will be pleasantly surprised.
Click on the link below to join and invest.
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The needs of the many far outweigh the needs of the few.Last edited by sailingdom; 13-09-2005 at 04:56 PM.
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12-09-2005, 10:59 PM #3
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This program is almost certainly a scam.
1. It's based on a commercially available HYIP template that costs about $50. I know of only one program using this script that is actually legitimate.
2. It offers totally unrealistic payout amounts. 10% per day cannot be maintained. The maximum sustainable amount is 2% per day, and I usually prefer 1% per day or less. This program will be gone within 6 months or less.
3. A lot of emphasis is placed on referral commissions. Legitimate HYIP's offer small referal's or none at all. Legitimate programs will grow by word of mouth. Scam's will try to buy you off so that you will advertise for them.
4. Support is internal email only. There is no physical address or telephone number included.
5. The only payment option is e-gold. E-gold is prefered by scammers because e-gold isn't diligent about prosecuting scams, and because the pre-bought websight templates only support e-gold as a payment option.
6. This program has three seperate scam warnings on the first page. The dollar and Euro chart, the profit calculators, and the proof of payment links. Real programs seldom include any of these on their front page.
7. There are no names or locations mentioned on the entire websight. Who is running this program? Where are they located? Are they certified to trade by the SEC? What is the support telephone number? What are their trading strategies? What kind of track record do they have? Who are their trading partners? Where are these partners located?
8. There are spelling and punctuation errors on the FAQ page and elsewhere. Bad grammar is almost always the sign of a scam.
9. They have a list of the top ten investors and the amount they have invested. Real investment companies respect the privacy of their clients far too much to release names and amounts.
10. The websight is not secure. it is http rather than https. if you change it to https it takes you to a domain hosting company rather than the GrandHYIP websight.
Come on folks. We've got to start getting a little smarter about investing. How many reasons do you need before you know it's a scam and you should stay away from it. This scam appears to be in about mid life cycle. It has anywhere from 2-5 more months before it disappears. At least, that's my opinion.
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12-09-2005, 11:24 PM #4
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I agree with twicewise to a point.
1) Scam, probably but, payouts have been sustained over the last 82 days.
2) I agree that 10% per day cannot be maintained in the long run. That is why I have given this 2 to 3 months to go.
3) I know of legitimate programs that offer 3 to 5 % in referral commissions.
4) Support is internal addy - yes, so are alot of others inclusive of some that have been going for up to 2 years and still are.
Bottom line, I am in profit from this one.
awesome8Last edited by sailingdom; 13-09-2005 at 04:56 PM. Reason: no affiliate links in your signature please
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13-09-2005, 01:46 AM #5
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Obviously you are playing the HYIP lottery. I.E. you are investing in what you already know to be a scam because they initially pay out before running away with all of the money. And thus you have calculated that they will continue to pay for another 2-3 months before they fold up.
I haven't done that. I've tried to look for legitimate, long term programs instead. So, I have a couple of questions.
1. When is the optimal time to invest in a scam program
2. What are the signs that it's time to pull out all the money you can.
3. What is the average lifespan of this type of program
4. How often do you make money, and how often do you lose?
Just curious
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13-09-2005, 05:06 AM #6
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Just give him a call and ask when he is going to run with the money, LOL! Because rest assured he is going to run, :-)
BTW - The script costs $149.00 and allows the admin to put in ANY numbers they want. "Running days", "Money in", "money out", ECT...ECT...
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Tel. +1.7188363373Have a great day!
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13-09-2005, 05:23 AM #7
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It's called "The Hit and Run" and yes there is money to be made. I make more on scams every week then I ever made in a legit program, (except PIPS) :-)
1. When is the optimal time to invest in a scam program - Beginning
2. What are the signs that it's time to pull out all the money you can.- Get your original back ASAP and only play with profits - Don't get greedy!
3. What is the average lifespan of this type of program - Very high risk could be 1 week to 2 months - Generally 2 weeks to 8 weeks! There are literally 10 new one's a day, 7 days a week! LOL! Here today - Gone tomorrow!
4. How often do you make money, and how often do you lose? - You have to have time on your hands to watch, and jump in - jump out alot.
I average $2K to $5K per month - depending! Could make $10K one month and lose $5K the next, It's called gambling!!!
1st yr. learning is hell, be forewarned!
Just curious
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13-09-2005, 08:47 AM #8
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Originally Posted by Twicewise
It is time we stopped feeding these scammers bank accounts.
All the points you have raised are valid, genuine HYIP's are as hard to find as rocking horse s**t!
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13-09-2005, 03:27 PM #9
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Originally Posted by feelgood2
Curious to find out what the genuine investments that TwiceWise talks about are.
awesome8Last edited by sailingdom; 13-09-2005 at 04:53 PM. Reason: No affiliate links in your signature please
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Feelgood2, I fully agree with you except that I feel we r about to find out that PIPS could be a scam. (hope I am wrong)
awesome8
Don't want to get into a PIPS discussion but I think your way off base on this one. Got a chance to talk to Bryan in Hawaii while he was hiding out by himself having a smoke break. Got very good vibes from the man as most will tell you who have met him.
Badly managed, inside sabatours, Maybe?
Scam - No way! LOL!Have a great day!
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