The disaster in New Orleans, Louisiana and Missisippi

I'm a swede who visit the New Orleans in May this year for the first time in my life. And all I can say is that I love that town! Especially the French Quarters where I spend alot of time having a wonderful time. Maybe the best time in my life.

Let us all send our thoughts to all the people there who has no home left to go back to, to those who lost their relatives, to citizens who might must wait for months to go back to their hometown again.

It aches in my heart when I see and read about all the tradgedies going on in Louisiana.

I know BM would do all he can to help the victims in the US.

Perhaps us regular people can help a little via the Red Cross.

God bless all of the victims of the Katrina hurricane.

Wireman

Not a single reply on my post in more than two hours. Don't you have any relatives that was hit by the hurricane? I don't blame anybody, but I think America should come together. This Katrina hurricane did not killed as many as in the 9/11 attack, but it's much worse in the meaning of that so many people lost their homes. And remember I'm a swede saying this.

Wireman

Everyone in America is certianly glued to the TV watching the devistation. Everyone I talk to says it looks just like the Tsunami. I have never been to that area, but I know that it is a lot like my city, and I cannot imagine if the whole city was cut off and shut down. No work, no homes, no help, no food, no hospitals. I think the reason more people from the area are not replying is becuase they have no electricty, or they are working on their mess at their house. I am in sunny California, so I have time to get on line. I wonder though if other nations are going to help us like we always help them. People think that all Americans are rich, but we are not. We all work hard, and we pay our taxes.

Thank you for your reply. And I agree on what you say. With no electric you are unable to get online to tell.

I hope doctors and nurses and other staff from my country will come to the US and help you. Just as they did after the Tsunami. I'm almost sure they will. The swedes sure feel with the americans.

Just for curiosity, I can tell you there are more swedes in your country than in sweden it self! And with many anchestors from the late 1800's and the early 1900's as well, going to the States to find themselves a new life.

Be safe!
Wireman

Peerperson wonders if other nations are helping out. You should read the entry in another string about how U.S. political stuborn pride is holding up aid from all over the world, I always am skeptical about there internet stories but there is some truth in it. I know that an urban medical search and rescue unit only got into the air this evening after waiting since the beginning for a request that finally came from the mayor of New Orleans. The Canadian Armed Forces disaster responce unit with a field hospital and water purifiers is still sitting on a runway waiting for approval from America to go. Money is pouring into the Canadian Red Cross. Compassion is not an exclusive American trait, the rest of the world feels your pain and is just waiting for the word to help.

hi pmedic,
I'm sure there is a lot of people willing to help but you have to convince our govt. first :evil: there are several freight trucks leaving the Portland, Oregon area tomorrow with bottled water & medical supplies :)

Some of us in Texas have been busy opening shelters for "refugees" from
Louisiana. I am in the Dallas area. We may not be physically able to do much, but we can buy food and give it to our local food banks and other charities. Most is coordinated through the American Red Cross. You can donate through their website.
We are sending workers --- recovery teams --- from Texas to Louisiana
and Mississippi to aid in the restoration of power, etc.
The American Navy is delivering supplies through the ports.
The long term recovery will be VERY long.
New Orleans and Mobile are MAJOR ports for international shipments. For
example, New Orleans ships over half the grain we produce and sell to other nations.
I do not think it will take as long as many in the media are predicting.

Did you see the oil rig that is caught under a bridge? That oil rig was 12 miles (over 25 km) offshore before the storm. There is damage to several
oil platforms in the Gulf. The storm caused 8 refineries to close. Four have reopened, but the other four were damaged and must be repaired.

The emphasis has been on helping the survivors. Power has been restored to areas in northern Louisiana and Mississippi. Of course, our news media tends to focus on the most negative (sensational) things they can find and neglects to tell of the progress being made.
You actually find better news on the radio.

Do a little research on Nicola Tesla and HAARP. This storm went around Florida so as not to lose any momentum to go straight for peak oil under Louisiana. Gas prices have risen about .50 cents in a few days. The scenes in the south look like war zones. The mass 'shelters' can be seen as concentration camps. These people do not have any access to communication, including cell phones!! The beginning fatal statistics is only a fraction of the end result which will take weeks to months to assess and is expected to reach thousands. Besides the fatalities, so many people are displaced from their homes and businesses and face all kinds of sickness in polluted water. Martial law is going into effect 'for the good of the people. :? ' This devestation does effect everyone as everyone is connected. New Orleans and southern Mississippi have been sacrificed as the WTC was for oil, money, corruption.
There is no such thing as coincidence, everything is manipulated.

I think this last post much truth.
Coast to Coast AM had a good show on Tuesday with Richard Hoaglund [EnterpriseMission.com], and another Meteorologist who give info on How , When, Why Who.... Weather Modification is a reality and has been used a long time... Youll have to read up on Tom Beardens Work re: Scalar Tecnology and such...before you poo poo the whole thing.
Well worth your time to do so if you havent heard of any of this.
No accidents..!
and WE ARE Nature!
DF.

It sounds like you are saying that the government or some powerful entity guided the hurricane around Florida so that it would not lose momentum so that it would destroy all of these other places. And this was done do drive up the oil prices??!! What a bunch of freaks! :roll: I think that you have been watching too many movies and listening to the conspiracy quacks for too long :!: So, who caused the tsunami and what was the reason for that :?: I'm sure that someone has an explanation pointing at someone. Get your head out of the sand!

Please friends. Calm down. Please just help. Donations of actual cash is what is needed now to a trustworthy organization like the Red Cross or Salvation Army. Please specify the funds for the Hurricane Relief efforts. Please don't turn this into a political battle.

'Conspiracy' or not, whatever, the southern part of this country is in need. I do so wish pipsaid would come back up and have a new Hurricane relief lottery.
Kim

I guess you missed footage of tons of supplies in cages under lock and key. There has all ready been millions of dollars sent, what is this money doing? not a damn thing for the people in the south, except adding more tragedy on top of tragedy! Not only is this about oil, I just found out that New Orleans is the largest port city in the US and among the largest in the world and is the place where the few things the US does ship out to other countries happened, ex wheat, soy, corn etc. The economy is being manipulated into ruin. get your head out of the sand!

Agree. Nothing is coincidence! Always question who benefits? And you'll get very close to the truth. Weather manipulating, making earthquakes etc. ARE facts, scientifically proven, it's really nothing new and quite "old".

Besides I would avoid all large, known charity organisations. (e.g. Worldvisison, Red Cross, Greenpeace only to name a few) They are not what they act to be. The least money goes to help people in need!! Don't get fooled and spend your hard earned money to criminal crooks in the belief of doing something good. They exactly know how to touch people's hearts, easy earned money.

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Originally Posted by coaster7777

Do a little research on Nicola Tesla and HAARP. This storm went around Florida so as not to lose any momentum to go straight for peak oil under Louisiana. Gas prices have risen about .50 cents in a few days. The scenes in the south look like war zones. The mass 'shelters' can be seen as concentration camps. These people do not have any access to communication, including cell phones!! The beginning fatal statistics is only a fraction of the end result which will take weeks to months to assess and is expected to reach thousands. Besides the fatalities, so many people are displaced from their homes and businesses and face all kinds of sickness in polluted water. Martial law is going into effect 'for the good of the people. :? ' This devestation does effect everyone as everyone is connected. New Orleans and southern Mississippi have been sacrificed as the WTC was for oil, money, corruption.
There is no such thing as coincidence, everything is manipulated.

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Coaster 7777

Jesus commanced the storm to ceace. Man has no technology to do that and probably never will. New Orleans and the Gulf Coast are in a huricane belt that will be hit regularly. this was always going to happen eventually. I grew up in New Orleans. I lived there for 20+ years. Ive been through more hurricanes than I can count. this is the worst, but its no conspiracy.

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Originally Posted by coaster7777

I guess you missed footage of tons of supplies in cages under lock and key. There has all ready been millions of dollars sent, what is this money doing? not a damn thing for the people in the south, except adding more tragedy on top of tragedy! Not only is this about oil, I just found out that New Orleans is the largest port city in the US and among the largest in the world and is the place where the few things the US does ship out to other countries happened, ex wheat, soy, corn etc. The economy is being manipulated into ruin. get your head out of the sand!

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coaster7777
I think your so right!

The tragic thing is that when help arrives, the low-lifes make it so dangerous for the delivery persons that they can't get in to get the things to the people who so desperately need it. My heart allmost breaks when I see those poor babies in such need.

I understand the frustration and fear that must be hitting these people, but it grieves me that they are bitter toward their rescuers who had zero-zilch-nada to do with their situation. I might be the same way if I were in their situation. There's an old Indian saying that goes like this (paraphrased), "Don't criticize a brother until you've walked 2 (full) moons in his moccasins". So, I'm not being critical. Just wish they could see that they are making their situation worse by fighting their saviors.

Incidentally there is a group called ALERT who are trained to go into disaster areas like this. Pull up their info on the search engine to find more info on them. If I were in a position to contribute, which unfortunately I'm not, I would give to this group. Forget the Red Cross. They're a bunch of vultures and don't even know what a human being is. Even as far back as WW2 the military people who needed help hated to work through the RC. If you want to help, the Salvation Army gives a lot more bang to your buck. Or the group I menationed above on a smaller scale. Just a word of advice.

hz

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Originally Posted by hisway

Jesus commanced the storm to ceace. Man has no technology to do that and probably never will. New Orleans and the Gulf Coast are in a huricane belt that will be hit regularly. this was always going to happen eventually. I grew up in New Orleans. I lived there for 20+ years. Ive been through more hurricanes than I can count. this is the worst, but its no conspiracy.

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I have a couple of links I could send you that (might!!!) make you think twice about you just said!! Sure is funny how those dikes broke in places where it would the most damage. Also the damage to these dikes were after the worst part of the storm had hit. Who knows what our government is capable of. Do you remember they sent a man to the moon? Just what are those satellites they sent up capable of? Does magnetics have anything to do with it?
No one can tell me man has no technology to do that!

:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

A couple of interesting links on Katrina



http://www.fourwinds10.com/news/04-e.../04F-09-01-05-

http://jmccanneyscience.com/Sun-Earth-Connection.HTMl

http://www.weatherwars.info/Katrina.htm


I'm not saying believe all that you read. I'm saying keep an open mind.

:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

SM

The truth is always blatant. And the news tells people what the controllers want you to think. Ex, Do not let the news tell you not to turn this into a political thing, it is a political thing.
How hard is it to give someone who has nothing $20/$40 dollars to perpetuate what the news wants us to think. And hide testimony contrary to what the news says. How on earth can rapes happen amidst tons of people!!!??? Media cameras are all over but never there to back up an unbelievable claim, like people shooting at rescuers while they video others with the believable help me signs. Of course it could be the people who are there to rescue actually perpetrating these claims (lets not forget abu ghraib abuse). I found it very peculiar that so little footage came out of the super dome, what is being hidden?
lets create all kinds of reasons to evacuate the city so we can manipulate events to happen and no one around to report on the truth. They have definitely learned a lot of what they need to be very careful of when taking out the WTC. The government and security is there to cover up and sustain the corrupt covert operation in place.

Here is yet another way to help. I know many of you have already made donations to the Red Cross and the Salvation Army (or not), but living here in California, after sending in my donation, I just was not satisfied that I had done everything I could. I received an email about an effort coordinated by MoveOn.org to provide emergency housing to those left homeless by this disaster. Go to www.hurricanehousing.org for more information. If you know anyone who lives within 300 miles of the affected areas, email them and let them know about this website. At this site, people who want to help can offer a spare room, bed or couch to those who are in need, and those in need can search for housing offers by zip code. The site has an excellent FAQ section. I hope that you forward this information to everyone you know; you never know who might have family or friends that might be able to help those who have evacuated, but have no local family or friends that can house them. Bless you for helping!

Those of you that are always on the conspiracy kick are usually the ones that don't believe in following the law if it doesn't siut you and you conveintly justify it by pointing out the flaws in the government. Be careful because your own shadow might turn on you one day :roll:

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Those of you that are always on the conspiracy kick are usually the ones that don't believe in following the law if it doesn't siut you and you conveintly justify it by pointing out the flaws in the government. Be careful because your own shadow might turn on you one day :roll:

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spirited:
You poor,poor sole! It has nothing to do with conspiracy or not following the law. It's what our (U.S.) government does and says. Then tells you it's for your own good. Puuleeaaase,, BTW I'm not afraid of shadows or darkness. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Testimonies from Hurricane Andrew which struck Florida in 1992 will shed more light on what I've said. Look into Where Heavens Meet, testimony from a victim of that hurricane. Now I know why they are afraid to enter the astrodome.

You must be reading my mind or is it synchronicity? :lol: I just wanted to post a part from a newsletter I received today about FEMA and the hurrican Andrew. Well, here it is:
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THE REAL REASON FOR FEMA

It is clear that the response to the unbelievable carnage and suffering in the wake of Hurricane Katrina has been pathetic. This is not surprising when you look at the real agenda behind the Federal Emergency Management Agency or FEMA. Once again I have been exposing the background to this organisation for a decade in books like … And The Truth Shall Set You Free and The R obots’ Rebellion. In the latter I wrote:

‘FEMA’s public face is presented as an organisation that reacts to national emergencies – everything from a nuclear attack to an earthquake or urban riot. Strange then, you might think, that only six per cent of its budget is spent on national emergencies. The rest is used to construct underground facilities for the government in time of ‘foreign or domestic’ emerge ncy, and to build ‘holding facilties’, prisons and ‘refugee facilities’, none of which have ever been used for such purposes. So, why are they building them? FEMA has around 3,600 employees, and yet only 60 work on natural disasters or prepare plans in case of nuclear attack. What are the rest doing?’

The lack of response to the suffering in those southern states can now be understood when you realise that FEMA is not there to mount such a response. Reporters from the world media can get in and out of there, so can the military, but they can’t do the same with food and water?? I wrote in … And The Truth Shall Set You Free:

‘… government organisations like the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) are fronts for the creation of holding areas (concentration camps) … FEMA was created under an Executive Order (which requires no debate in Congress), and signed by president Jimmy Carter, the Trilateral Commission front man. This allows FEMA to take control of the United States during any & lsquo;national emergency’ declared by the president. These powers include marshall law and the right of the military to enforce whatever FEMA decides. All the laws are already in force which allow a military takeover of the United States. They have been passed by Executive Order and any time a president calls a state of emergency they can be invoked.’

Oliver North, of Iran-Contra fame, was heavily involved in the creation of FEMA, so say no more. We have all seen the scale of suffering in the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina, but away from the mainstream media it will be far worse. In Alice in Wonderland and the World Trade Center Disaster I detail the real background to Hurricane Andrew that devastated parts of Florida in 1992. Th is was another highly suspect hurricane and what you read here in this extract from the book is what will now be happening amid the devastation of Katrina:

FEMA and Hurricane Andrew

I have spoken with survivors of Hurricane Andrew, which struck South Dade County, Florida, in 1992 and anyone who wants to know what the world will be like under organisations like FEMA and their ******* should listen to what they say. The horror stories they tell about the actions of FEMA beggar belief. Far from helping the hundreds of thousands of homeless and injured victims, FEMA cordoned off the area and left the people to fend for them selves. They were given no food, no water, no medical supplies, no shelter and no help whatsoever when the disaster struck. One of the victims was K.T. Frankovich who suffered serious injuries in the hurricane. She tells of her horrific experiences in her book, Where Heavens Meet. About three days after the hurricane had devastated the region, she said that a long line of police cars, about 12 to 15, arrived in her area. Each car was driven by a man dressed in a dark polic e uniform and they had t hree other plain clothes men riding as passengers, she said. K.T. had a broken jaw, eight teeth knocked out and huge pieces of glass embedded in her body that only a scalpel could remove. She begged this FEMA convoy for help and this was the exchange that followed, as described by K.T. in Where Heavens Meet.

“Please Sir, I need medical help,” I begged, barely able to speak. The officer sitting behind the wheel sighed heavily. He turned his head away from me and gazed out his windshield. The other three men in the car quietly looked at me. “Please Sir, I need to get to a hospital,” I begged franticly. The officer took his time about reaching over and switching off the engine. With another sigh, he slowly o pened the door and climbed out. He then proceeded to close the door and stood there with his legs astride.

“Lady, do me a favour,” he answered. “Find yourself a piece of paper and a pencil. Write down your name and social security number next to the phone number of your nearest living relative. Tuck the piece of paper in your pocket so tomorrow, when I find your body, I’ll know who to contact.”

“No! No!” I cried out. “You don’t understand. I need to get to a hospital. I’ve been badly injured.”

“No! You’re the one that doesn’t understand,” he hissed back.

“With that, he reached over to his holster and took out his gun. He grabbed me, forcing me up against the side of the car, and proceeded to put the barrel of the gun against my temple. I heard the hammer cock. From the position he had pushed me into, I could see directly into the car. The man sitting in the front passenger seat looked away from me immediately, glancing down to the floor. The two passengers in the back turned their heads quickly, staring out the window on the other side of the car. My son and the other survivor watched as the officer had pulled back the hammer on his gun. So shocked out of their minds by what they were witnessing, neither one could move!

“You don’t belong here!” the officer growled, pressing the barrel into the side of my head. “Now you get the hell outta here before I blow away your ass!”

“He shoved my face into the car window and then released me. Someone grabbed me from behind and whirled me around so fast I didn’t have time to think! Before I knew it, I was being thrown over a shoulder. My rescuer took off running as fast as he could! I caught a brief glimpse of my son running next to me. With one gigantic leap, he and the survivor who carried me down behind a pile of debris. All three of us cr ashed on top of each other in one tangled up heap.

“I’ll shoot your damn asses!” the officer’s voice rang out.”

This is the mentality behind FEMA, the US military, the Office of Homeland “Security” and leaders of government. That mentality would not orchestrate what happened on September 11th to advance its agenda? The official death toll of Hurricane Andrew was 26, but K.T. Frankovich says she saw at least 71 bodies taken away from one small area alone. She estimates the dead to have numbered thousands. But how ma ny people know that? Only those involved and no one is listening to them. As always, the media told us what the official sources told them and they had no inclination to investigate further because it’s easier that way. When you consider how 8,230 mobile homes and 9,140 apartments disappeared in the wake of 200-300 miles an hour winds, it is obvious that the official death toll of 26 is insane. K.T. Frankovich recalls:

“The National Guard along with the Coast Guard, the Army, FEMA, Metro Dade Police, state police and local police removed dead bodies and body parts as quickly as possible during those first ten days of the aftermath. Horrified survivors watched as both uniformed and civilian-clothed men searched the rubble and filled body bags, which they then stacked in military vehicles or huge refrigerator trucks normally used to tr ansport food, only to drive off and leave the stranded injured to fend for them selves.

“Not until I managed to escape the aftermath did I discover that the ‘thermo-king’ sections of these same refrigerator trucks, jam packed with wall to wall body bags, ended up being stored at Card Sound Navy Base, located in an isolated area just above the Florida Keys. The inside temperature was kept cool by portable generators until the bodies were either incinerated or just plain dumped into huge open gr ave pits.

“Those working on the body pick up operation were forced to take what is known as the Oath of Sworn Secrecy, which is strictly enforced by the government. Many of them plunged into shock, once exposed to the ghastly devastation and countless mutilated bodies. The horrors were way beyond human comprehension. I can vouch for this, as I accidentally stepped on the severed hand of a young child when I initially crawled out of the debris, only to witness shortly thereafter two dead teenagers and the decapitated body of a baby girl.”

K.T. says that when she lectured at the Clearwater Convention in Florida in 1999, a man in the audience introduced himself as Chief Petty Officer Roy Howard and said he had spent 9 weeks on active duty working in South Dade County amid the devastation. He said he learned that at least 5,280 people had died and that the bodies had been ‘confiscated’ by the National Guard and secretly disposed of in incinerators in a joint operation with FEMA. At least another 1,500 bodies were ‘confiscated’ from lakes and other water. This is the America that the population doesn’t see, but it soon will if people don’t wake up fast. FEMA, the organisation behind all this and with all those fascist powers to take over America, is a 100% Illuminati creation funded by the profits from the CIA-Bush family drug operation. It is no surprise to learn, then, that it was during Father George’s time at the CIA and in the White House between 1980 and 1992 that this “emergency management” network was established in the name of fighting terrorism and … drug trafficking! You have to admire their cheek if nothing else.

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Originally Posted by coaster7777

Testimonies from Hurricane Andrew which struck Florida in 1992 will shed more light on what I've said. Look into Where Heavens Meet, testimony from a victim of that hurricane. Now I know why they are afraid to enter the astrodome.

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Friday, September 02, 2005

Omigod: DICK CHENEY Has Been On Vacation!
by Michael in New York - 9/02/2005 12:49:00 AM



Dan Froomkin of The Washington Post reported on Wednesday that Dick Cheney has spent part of August at his home outside Jackson Wyoming. A Cheney spokesperson insisted it wasn't a vacation because he'd had some briefings.

As of Wednesday -- two days after Hurricane Katrina devastated the Gulf States -- Cheney was STILL VACATIONING IN JACKSON WYOMING. And when was Cheney headed back to Washington?
"He will certainly be coming back. I'm not able to tell you the day right now. I don't have that handy."
Can you believe it? (Kudos to reader Aaron for pointing us to this.) For days AFTER the worst natural disaster in our nation's history:

Bush stayed on vacation. On Monday he went to Arizona to cut a birthday cake with John McCain and play politics on Medicare. On Tuesday -- as the flood waters were rising and the death toll mounted -- Bush played politics again, heading out to California to make a speech offering another excuse for staying the course in Iraq (oil!) and jamming on a guitar. He knew he had to end his vacation early (sigh) but couldn't bring himself to head straight to Washington DC. So Bush went BACK to Crawford for one more cozy night of rest before finally heading back to Washington DC on Wednesday.

Meanwhile, Condi Rice is in the midst of a THREE DAY vacation that began AFTER the hurricane struck New Orleans. She's gone to a Broadway show, played tennis with Monica Seles and reportedly bought really expensive Ferragamo shoes.

And DICK CHENEY HAS BEEN HANGING OUT IN JACKSON, WYOMING ALL THIS TIME!!!!

Every damn reporter in this country better insist on asking again and again and again exactly what Cheney and Rice have been doing these last few days and why the HELL THEY WEREN'T BACK IN WASHINGTON DC DEALING WITH THE WORST DISASTER IN OUR NATION'S HISTORY.

If this doesn't wake people up to their utter callousness, stupidity and contempt for average Americans -- especially at a time of the most dire crisis -- well, then nothing will.

Bush is relaxing in Crawford, Condi is going to a Broadway show and Dick Cheney is probably fly fishing -- all AFTER the hurricane struck.

WHERE IS DICK? WHEN DID HE GET BACK TO DC? WHY WASN'T HE BACK THERE ON MONDAY? OR TUESDAY? OR WEDNESDAY?

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Even the police is looting:

http://www.livejournal.com/users/int...or/2005/08/31/