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Hanng there BOSS.GOD BLESS
Thanks Bryan for the info & everything you & Sharon are doing for us. I pray that all goes well for both of you. LOL (Lots Of Love)
Dear Bryan
Thanks so much for your post and letting us know that plans are coming together. It feels very exciting that maybe things are getting closer to moving again. I was and always will be so inspired by your vision and that Pips has always been about making the world a better place.
I'd like to throw in a comment for your consideration - and I know that my comment may be WAY off target but because you are not able to give too many details at this stage, I felt it might be better to say something than wait until all is finalised. And it is probably something you have already considered...
You said
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Originally Posted by BM
I LOVE your vision - and just wish I had dreams of my own of how I could use the wealth that might be created through the "new" Pips to make a huge difference in the world. But without that clear vision of something I personally can do, my way right now of making a difference is by supporting those who are doing "good" out there. I have sponsored a number of people into Pips, friends of mine, but people who I see giving their lives to somehow making a difference to others - sometimes 1 person at a time, sometimes through large visions that affects thousands.
To me, they will definitely count as "the little guy". They are people who have focussed so much on others that creating wealth has not been a priority for them - and yet with wealth they would be able to do so much more. They know that, but they are so passionate about what they are doing that taking the time off to actually focus on money has not been their choice. Some of them would not have been able to join pips, others maybe could have but would have been too focussed on doing what they do. So one of my greatest joys in being a pips member has been giving accounts to these people and seeing their faces light up as they have realised what that could mean for the people they help.
Your post mentions an upper limit to the amount loaned. It gives no indication on the plans for eg the return, the amount that that account can grow to etc - maybe those things are so high that this post has no meaning.
I know that greed has been an issue - and that is so sad, because there was so much to go around in pips. Yet it seems that human nature has that aspect.
Just to throw in for the consideration though that I do think those who were swayed by greed were (hopefully) in the minority. I do believe there are a large number of pipsters, like my friends, who have dreams of doing wonderful things in the world - and seek firstly the freedom from having to spend their time simply surviving and secondly to have a source of wealth that allows those dreams to be turned into reality. I have read so many posts throughout the history of pips forums where people share their excitement at really being able to focus on giving to others/ to the world. Sometimes by helping people who are suffering, sometimes by grand projects to make a huge impact. To me, dreaming of the wealth of Pips for those purposes is not greed - and I doubt that those people have been the ones who have caused so many problems over the last months.
In whatever you have planned for the "little guy" I dream that you can maybe find a way to let those who have plans that are bigger than their own lives still hold the vision that that can come true. Even if there is a ceiling on what the "little guy" can earn, so that greed does not take over for those who are affected by it, maybe there would be other ways - eg one thought is maybe there could be a panel and if someone wants to invest with the ultimate vision of something big, they could apply to that panel. I don't know how. I just know that to me, Pips has always been about helping others, and one of the ways I believed that would happen was when the members of pips had the freedom and money to do great things in the world. As I said, I would love to have some idea or grand plan for myself - but so far I don't - but I do know that many do and I want to support them, and therefore through them know that the world is a better place
Thank you for your vision - regardless of where things go from here, you have given many people the chance to dream about what they could do if only they had the chance.
Please look after yourself - this is a hard road, and I just think you are amazing for your determination and commitment to this vision, despite all the hurdles
Jenny
Thank you Jenny,
English is not my first language and I realy appreciate what you wrote.
I myself think of what you wrote absolutely.
But I think too that Bryan surely has something good about that in his plan.
Thanks again for your post Jenny,
BoB :)
Dear Jenny,
I appreciated the wonderful spirit of your letter. There was one thing there that i think indicated you may not have understood what Bryan was trying to say. You stated something to the effect that the earnings of the little guy would be limited. I think what Bryan said was that the amount the little guy would be allowed to loan to PIPS would be limited. That would not effect their eventual earnings, as I understand it. If the restructure works anything like the old program, the earnings would be ongoing and according to how one manages his account, would grow nicely.
Pardon me if I've innterpreted your meaning.
Take care and blessings,
hzchoice
Thanks for the latest info
Alsem
Hello Bryan,
I'm still very much in the dark as to what exactly happened!!?? I'm only hoping and praying that the money we invested will come back to us!!?? We put in pretty much most of our savings.
Sincerely,
Very Nervous, Stacey :smiley:
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Originally Posted by BM
Sorry for sounding silly I thought you were BM??
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Originally Posted by makaveli
This will be about the 50th time this has been answered. What Bryan is doing is repeating a question that was asked to him and then he answers it.
A very good proposal. In fact, it was the heavy recruiters of Pips and other Pips programs in USA who are responsible for causing the trouble with the authorities for Pips and its memberts.Quote:
Originally Posted by catlady
Hi Jenny
Thanks for your post.
Yes, it looks like there will be a cap (upper loan limit) on each "little guy's" account under restructuring.
As hzchoice says "the earnings would be ongoing and according to how one manages his account, would grow nicely." Definitely, "the little guys" will have very nice ongoing income if they managed their accounts well.
For the "private invitation only program" under the restructuring, it will only "for the higher end accredited net worth guys" as Bryan posted.
Let us be patience when waiting for details about the restructuing. Let Bryan focus his time doing the important thing first, i.e. get the programs up.
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Originally Posted by BM
Hi hzchoiceQuote:
Originally Posted by hzchoice
Thanks for your post - I understood that Bryan's comment was on the amount the "small guy" could loan - it is just that there are no details on what effect, if any, that has on the outcome. Which is fine, I'm happy with no details until it is ready - and for myself, I am grateful for anything that comes my way as I have no big plans or projects. But one possible effect of a cap on the amount loaned is a cap on the amount that can be earned - and while I have no problem with that in general - it may prevent some of the problems that came up with Pips, I do think there are times when someone may be truly small player, but with a big vision - and that inspires me. But I suspect it also inspires Bryan - that was what pips was about. Still, I decided I would rather post and share my thoughts, rather than wait until the details were released and then discover that Bryan had (quite understandably) had his focus drawn to those who have displayed "greed" this time around.
I guess in the last year I have just loved to think of the friends that I have brought into Pips and imagine the effect they can have on the world if only money were not an issue. One friend spends everything he ever gets on travelling around the world, including the poorer countries like Brazil and Costa Rica teaching about families, how to really understand your children, and help them be the best they can be, how to bring health into the family through loving the family. He makes very little income really for his work, particularly from those poorer countries, so the number of places he can go is limited - for now.... Another two friends are amazing healers, who draw people to them because they are so caring and loving - and I have a picture where they can do that work without the daily stress of whether there will be enough money - and now if a client can't pay (including me at this point in time), they don't ask for money, but instead, add another client on to make up the difference and be able to pay the bills
Looking forward to whatever the future brings thanks to Bryan
Jenny
thanks for some of the answers, as I have only just come on line is there some where that I am able to catch up on whta has happened. What will happen with old PIPS members etc.
Pips as I understood it, was private?
Thanks Brian for all your efforts.
i hope with the restructering we still get the 10% to charity causes
How will we the member be notified when PIPS is up and running again?
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Would that be called a "JOY" Quake???
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Originally Posted by hzchoice
Dear Jenny,
I appreciated the wonderful spirit of your letter. There was one thing there that i think indicated you may not have understood what Bryan was trying to say. You stated something to the effect that the earnings of the little guy would be limited. I think what Bryan said was that the amount the little guy would be allowed to loan to PIPS would be limited. That would not effect their eventual earnings, as I understand it. If the restructure works anything like the old program, the earnings would be ongoing and according to how one manages his account, would grow nicely.
Pardon me if I've innterpreted your meaning.
Take care and blessings,
hzchoice
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Hi hzchoice
Thanks for your post - I understood that Bryan's comment was on the amount the "small guy" could loan - it is just that there are no details on what effect, if any, that has on the outcome. Which is fine, I'm happy with no details until it is ready - and for myself, I am grateful for anything that comes my way as I have no big plans or projects. But one possible effect of a cap on the amount loaned is a cap on the amount that can be earned - and while I have no problem with that in general - it may prevent some of the problems that came up with Pips, I do think there are times when someone may be truly small player, but with a big vision - and that inspires me. But I suspect it also inspires Bryan - that was what pips was about. Still, I decided I would rather post and share my thoughts, rather than wait until the details were released and then discover that Bryan had (quite understandably) had his focus drawn to those who have displayed "greed" this time around.
I guess in the last year I have just loved to think of the friends that I have brought into Pips and imagine the effect they can have on the world if only money were not an issue. One friend spends everything he ever gets on travelling around the world, including the poorer countries like Brazil and Costa Rica teaching about families, how to really understand your children, and help them be the best they can be, how to bring health into the family through loving the family. He makes very little income really for his work, particularly from those poorer countries, so the number of places he can go is limited - for now.... Another two friends are amazing healers, who draw people to them because they are so caring and loving - and I have a picture where they can do that work without the daily stress of whether there will be enough money - and now if a client can't pay (including me at this point in time), they don't ask for money, but instead, add another client on to make up the difference and be able to pay the bills
Looking forward to whatever the future brings thanks to Bryan
Jenny
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I can see where having two parts to the restructure of pips will help all.
By placing Pipsters with small loans and Pipsters with large loans in different catagories would eliminate the need for multiple account and help the withdrawal process.
I would see a cap on monthly withdrawals and rol limits to insure the longevity of pips.
BM mention greed whitch cause me to believe this may be the new directions for pips.
Looking foward to Pips return and the next convention to meet and greet everyone.
omcelveen
How do we get invited into the private program, since I already have funds invested in PIPS. I have joined this forum hoping to get some info. Please send me some hope I am one of the little gals.
We all have to wait until the outcome of BoN investigation & for BM to get all of the $ back. Then we'll probably get some kind of e-mail or some other notice. Welcome to the forum danarn4Quote:
Originally Posted by danarn4
Hi Jenny/hzchoice,
I have just read your very interesting posts and share your hopes for the future of Pips and the way that individual members philanthropic ambitions can be furthered once again.
I have a slightly different "take" on Bryans comment.
"1. For the little guy, this will have an upper limit to the amount that can be loaned, gets rid of the greed merchants for this program."
I take this to mean that the restructured programme will have a limit on the total loan amount that can be reached which will automatically get rid of the "greed merchants".
There will then be an invitation only programme for the "higher net worth guys" which would presumably attract those who have reached the limit of earning capacity of the new "capped" programme.
This would provide Bryan with some safeguards for the future and still allow steady growth for the members.
I realise that I have read between the lines a little but of course time will tell!
The main thing is that I believe that Bryan is confident that he can regroup and go ahead with all the experience of the past, both good and bad, and be a real force for good in the years to come,
Michael
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Originally Posted by michaelr
I believe you have hit the nail on the head there Micheal..Those were my exact thoughts in regards to the 'limit on the little guy' thing..You said it much more elequintly then I could have..lol..And yes I believe that only time will tell if our 'speculation' is correct or way off base.
I have the greatest confidence in Bryan that the program WILL be back and stronger than ever!
Cheers
Roo AKA Pantherjon
Big guy little guy, who cares all will become clear if the go ahead from BoN happens, then we will all surely be happier as we will be getting a return on our money. On that note, Bryan I hope you will be prepared for the mass of withdrawals when you start the new programme!
Only time will tell.
cheers
Rich
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Originally Posted by leftyken
Ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooh Hand Bags!!
Well this is all very interesting stuff.
Blessing to you Bryan
Alsem
Gl bryan where are with you :)
I hope everyone's right in their speculation that we will eventually get a return on our invested funds... because, I've invested roughly 1/3 of my yearly salary and have yet to receive a single penny in return.
I pray every day that this dark nightmare will soon go away. My significant other did say at the begining that "if it's too good to be true, than it is". At this point I'm reminded all the time on this comment and it appears to hold true so far in this case.
It sure would be nice to see my initial return back. I had my initial investment all sitting in pending withdrawals with Picp... so I'm not sure what will eventually happen with that.
Still concerned!
Sambuca
Dearest Sambuca,
Oh my gosh those of us invested can only try to feel your pain. My goodness what were you thinking by investing so much of your "need to have" in this program that from the start was understood NOT to invest monies that you cannot walk away from. Not that others of us aren't in a world of hurt in our own situation, but I guess, lessons learned, bless your heart. Strength will come from these lessons, faith and a solid return to our wonderful program aimed at only doing good for people.
God Bless,
We In Flower Mound (weinfm)
"On that note, Bryan I hope you will be prepared for the mass of withdrawals when you start the new programme!" This is a segment of an earlier post.
I have yet to post but, I need to comment. I was thinking this very thought. There are going to be a huge amout of people wanting money.....HUGE! Some are going to ask for the initial investment then run while some are going to want to see credibility through cash in hand. Most likely a large amount of cash in hand. This should indeed prove interesting. I anxiously await while visualizing success for all.
Mike in Olympia WA. USA
To all those people who want to put a run on the bank when the funds are available are not acting wise. Think about:
1) The man is watching all transactions. They want to do anything and everything to keep the masses from becoming financial astute. Plus “if” they can’t stop it they will want their portion of it. If you guys jump in to fast and hard it could ruin it for all and I believe this is what has caused all this grief in the first place.
2) A run could cause more fear and mistrust, which Brian is trying to over come by working so hard to put things back together. So again this could ruin it for all. But I can see no one is concerned about anyone but themselves.
Please let Brian do his thing and just be patient things will work out for everyone if we act with some concern and respect for all.
This attitude 'Pull up the ladder boys I am alright' will be a very foolish move. Rather let **** come back and coast along with it to give it breathing space. We all knew when we went into it that we were taking a risk and we were told do not invest any money that was actually needed as things could go wrong so putting huge amounts in was not wise. Yes it is tempting and we all are weak in that regard. But never having tried anything like this before when I was told about it and decided to do it I did say here I go I will try it but if it goes wrong I will not look over my shoulder and cry. It is like taking a ticket in the lotto each week plenty of people take these tickets and they do not win so its good bye money. We hang in here because of the good it can do for so many when it comes back on let us not kill it by grabbing and fleeing.
Keep the faith, grit your teeth and you will see it will all be fine in the end. Irydany :banana:
think U Irydany
Hi there I'm new here. I just found out the info from another PIPS friend. So I'm trying to catch up on what's going on, so excuse me if I'm asking something that has already been answered.
When the program comes back up what happens with the funds that we already put into PIPS from before??? And what happened with the funds that we gained in ROL's??
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[COLOR=Indigo]Its been asked before but I guess we will all find out the answer at the same time When Bryan tells us all ........ we're nearly there hang in a little longer and all will be revealed[/COLOR]
Dear Bryan.
are you due in court on November 17th?
if not, great!
if so, what for?
it's a simple question that in no way can jeopodise your position.
don't you feel you owe us this much?
especially to those that have donated to YOUR defence fund.
thanks.
According to Nair the Nov-17 hearing is about the staff's salary issue, as they have not been paid for 2½ months.
Some of these staff has helped themselves to the expensive equipment at the Bistro (see one of Bryan's earlier entries)....the thieves..!..get them to return the stolen property before they talked about their unpaid salaries..
I will be happy as a clam to have enough to cover expenses for now. Life is so peculiar, I've basically been unemployed since May but somehow the universe sees to it that we eat and have a roof over our heads. Patience and faith beloveds.
Thanks a lot. Nice hearing from you.
Wouter
Thanks Bryan - Good news indeed - I did say that you would have the last laugh! mobell1 (Maureen) UK