Thread: Yes I do believe there is a spirit of hate in the world.

Velvetpatches,

Nice post about killing and stuff, but remember Jesus said, "I come not to bring peace but a sword". So much for "turn the other cheek" eh? :roll:

If Jesus brought the sword, why was he so busy healing people, and, feeding people, instead of using the sword?

Perhaps because it was his nature to heal, and forgive, and not contribute to deceit and the behavior of harming others. As he said, forgive them Father, for they know not what they do.


VP

WE have to remember that this world that we live in is the kingdom of satan. this is his world for now, when Jesus comes back he is dealing with satan, and the Jewish nation!

Now as far as this is his kingdom, he (satan) will give you all the religion you want, BUT it will just fall short of the complete truth. Hence all the different denomonations that exist in the world, all man made.

I am Christian (a follower of Jesus), At one time I did belong to a very large and well known religion, but after years of questions being answered, with double talk and pious ideas, I decided to pickup the Bible and give it a read, and to my suprise bingo there were the answers. I began to seek out people that could help me with the Word of God. do I completely understand all of the bible, no I don't but my worldy blindness has been lifted from my eyes and the understanding of His word is much clearer then ever, and that continues today and will continue until Jesus returns.

Jesus came to save not to condem. Religion tells you, you will go to hell if you do not follow the rules and riturals of religion, and we all know we are not perfect, satan knows for sure, so the rules are broken and then you fall away from the church and begin to believe whatevery you want to make you feel good about yourself, and satan has you right where he wants you, and God gets the blame to boot!

Organized religion tries to take on the Christian lable :( even after their action show they fall short of Christianty, history will bear this out.

It's kind of funny when something bad happens, the first one they blame is God, when in fact it is satan causing the harm, and he knows God will get blamed, remember satan wants christiany to look bad in anyway he can. Take the Crusades it was a man made religion that lead the Crusades, not Christianty, although they used the name of Christianty, it was the cut throat leadership of a man made religion! And God gets the blame again:(

Jesus will come back and deal with satan and his followers when the time is right and only God knows that time. The Armstronist and the holy rollers, have made many predictions in the past when the world will end, but so far they all missed the mark (as if man knows remember, neither Jesus or the angels in heaven know only the Father knows) Yes we do have signs so all I can say is keep an eye on Isreal.

Originally Posted by velvetpatches

If Jesus brought the sword, why was he so busy healing people, and, feeding people, instead of using the sword?

Perhaps because it was his nature to heal, and forgive, and not contribute to deceit and the behavior of harming others. As he said, forgive them Father, for they know not what they do.


VP

I agree. According to the manuscripts the sword of the Lord is his tongue and the true Word of God. It says that the true Word cuts both ways like a two edged sword and thats what he'll use (The truth) to whip this world into shape.

Not some man made sword, that is used for killing and harming people.

Satan is the one who, kills, steals and destroys but he uses the name of God to do it so that men will hate God and his son.

Armstrongism makes no actual predictions of when things will happen,only what to LOOK for,to help determine that the time is indeed SHORT.They never ONCE implied that they knew WHEN the end will come.
And as you can likely determine on your own,the faster things happen,the faster they happen.
There's still quite a few things left to happen,be fulfilled,but as I stated already,the faster things(events)happen,the faster those events happen(come into being).The mark of the beast will be placed on every man,woman and child,in the VERY NEAR FUTURE.
I've heard of parents actually "chipping' their children,already,in the fear of them getting abducted,etc.I know one personally who is considering having his son chipped for precisely that reason,much like pets,race horses,live stock and so-on.
This bio-chip would act as proof of identity,passport,driver's licence,bank info,CC info,medical records,dental records,credit rating,DNA,tracking device,et al.All your personnal details would be accessible through this technology.And after a while,NO-ONE,slave or free,rich or poor,criminal or law-abider,would be able to live and work without this "bio-chip".Those who refuse it will be incarcerated,implying that it will be a VOLUNTARY submission.
The U.S. dept. of health will be promoting this new technology in the months ahead.Don't take MY word for it,wait and see for yourself.
This chip will also be trumpeted as a "safety measure" against identity theft,bank and CC fraud,kidnapping,terrorism,etc.People will ASK for it,in light of current world affairs.
I don't pretend to know exactly WHEN the time will come,but like Jesus said,these are not the signs of His coming,they are the signs that the time is SHORT.And these things will all come to pass BEFORE those who witnessed WW1 would ALL pass away.
On the subject of the Jews;they are not the whole of Israel,they are only TWO TRIBES of Israel.The other ten have been LOST,since long before Jesus was born.Does anyone know who and where these ten lost tribes are now?It would stupefy you to learn,and most of them wouldn't even believe it;they believe themselves to be Gentiles.
The only difference between them and the Jews is that the Jews have always kept their identifying sign;the lost tribes LOST their identifying sign.Well,they didn't actually lose it,they abandoned it,quite willingly.Do you know what that identifying sign is?What is different and highly visible about the Jews that sets them apart from ALL other "nations"?
As for "organised religions",they are all Mystery Babylon and her daughters.Mystery Babylon is the Great Whore,tainted with the blood of the Saints,who rides the Beast with seven heads and ten horns which comes to destroy mankind,and for the time being looks like it will succeed.Does anyone know who,or what, Mystery Babylon is?Does anyone know who,or what,the Beast is?

Hi Rahly;

In answer to your questions - I am jumping in here - so please be aware I haven't been in on all the discussion, but I can answer your questions from your last post.

On the subject of the Jews;they are not the whole of Israel,they are only TWO TRIBES of Israel.The other ten have been LOST,since long before Jesus was born. Does anyone know who and where these ten lost tribes are now?It would stupefy you to learn,and most of them wouldn't even believe it;they believe themselves to be Gentiles.

Firstly the ten tribe kingdom of Israel was unfaithful and it is believed they are today the United States of America to some and to others the Mormon church. Isaiah 11:1 & 2 is sometimes quoted to symbolize the lost ten tribes as being applicable to the Mormon Church, or THE USA. Whatever they are lost because of there apostasy and whomever is really the ten tribes simply don't have the true faith but are apostates - if you beleive all that Christian reasoning. I have even heard that the British Nation is the lost ten tribes of which the USA is the newly found Child of Israel. Have you ever heard of the Religious group "The Bristish Israelites" ??? They claim just that.

The only difference between them and the Jews is that the Jews have always kept their identifying sign;[ the Hexagram which is an occultic symbol - the 6 pointed star of David/Solomon ] the lost tribes LOST their identifying sign. Well,they didn't actually lose it,they abandoned it,quite willingly. Do you know what that identifying sign is? What is different and highly visible about the Jews that sets them apart from ALL other "nations"?

As for their sign - Don't quote me on this, but - the back of the USA $1.00 bill with 'the eye in the triangle above the pyramid' and the Latin words of the Roman Church - 'ORDO NOVUS SECLORIUM' - meaning 'The Order of the New Secular World' or more simply " The New World Order ". I see that as their sign - until proven otherwise.
They apparently don't blush and have a slight genetic difference. The Ashkenazi "Jew" particuarly. This area gets into semitism and is very contriversial, because Hitler knew about these sort of issues which is why he did what he did. Read 'The Protocols of Zion' [ a search engine on the web will get it easily ] and you will see 'The Order of Kahal' driving the NWO into play. This Order was linked into the Freemasons which set up the USA presidency back in 1776 with the founding father and Catholic Jesuit Adam Wiespaut. George Bush a Born Again Christian and business partner to Bin Laden is the current represenative of all this. Christians have a lot to answer for as thay are part of 'Babylon The Great' 'The World Empire of False Religion'. Any Christian who is a part of a church or organization is actually a part of Babylon hence the scripture in Revelation 18:4 "Get out of her my people".

As for "organised religions",they are all Mystery Babylon and her daughters. Mystery Babylon is the Great Whore,tainted with the blood of the Saints,who rides the Beast with seven heads and ten horns which comes to destroy mankind,and for the time being looks like it will succeed. Does anyone know who,or what, Mystery Babylon is? Does anyone know who,or what,the Beast is?

Revelation 17 tells you. 'The eighth King' which is also the Beast, is The 'NEW WORLD ORDER' or 'Globalisation'. It is an economic NWO in so much as the mark of the beast has economic consequences - "no one can BUY OR SELL unless thay have the mark". Rev 13:16 to 18.

I hope this answers your questions.
Kimlyn

Originally Posted by kermit

I agree. According to the manuscripts the sword of the Lord is his tongue and the true Word of God. It says that the true Word cuts both ways like a two edged sword and thats what he'll use (The truth) to whip this world into shape.

Not some man made sword, that is used for killing and harming people.

Satan is the one who, kills, steals and destroys but he uses the name of God to do it so that men will hate God and his son.

I wish to add - Jesus is going to rule the nations under his kingdom with an iron rod. An 'iron rod' means strict discipline and a dictatorship, as the bible says a thing "to smash the nations to pieces". Revelation 2:27 and 12:5.

This is a loving ruler with his version of 'The New World Order' as in Daniel 2:44. The sword of the Lord is - 'words of power' coming from his tongue as the logos or word. [ see John 1:1.] It's a fight with magick - 'words of power' including 'God's word the Bible' against the wicked spirit forces [ see Ephesians 6:12,13 &17. ]. Hence scriptual aurgumentation shows others how good you are with weilding the sword of the spirit because is a spiritual warfare.

Regards
Kimlyn

Hi,kimlyn,

I already knew the answers to my questions:I was merely asking so as to see if anyone else had any idea.Thanks for jumping in.

The 10 lost tribes are NOT the USA,but include the USA AND the British,the word "British" being derived from "b'rith" meaning "covenant" and "ish" meaning "man":'b'rith-ish"="covenant man".
The 10 lost tribes encompass the British Isles,the USA,France,most of Western Europe and the Scandinavian countries,as well as Canada,Australia,New Zealand and English-speaking white South Africa.I haven't named them all,but you get the picture.In fact,the lost tribes have spread to all corners of the earth,as promised to Abraham,and re-promised to his sons.
The lost tribes,at one time,owned all the gates (sea-gates) of their "enemies".Now they have "lost" them all,except for the last remaining one,Gibraltar,which is hangin' by a thread.

Their lost identifying sign,believe it or not,is Sabbath-keeping the seventh day of the week,NOT the "occultic" sign you mentioned above.The Sabbath meaning,Saturday(latin:Sabbatto),NOT the first week-day Sun-god worship day,SUNday.
That was,and still is,Israel's apostasy for which it was attacked,its cities destroyed,and its survivors enslaved in Babylon.And will be again,soon,as promised by God.

As for Mystery Babylon,incredibly it IS the Roman Church,and all of her offshoots and detractors,who will be re-united one last time,a godless world-wide religion for the elite.The NWO will enforce its mark (embedded micro-chip) and its economic consequences.Of course,the NWO's agenda includes total annihilation of the human race,so that should give you an idea as to who actually RULES the NWO.

Of course,at first the chip will be voluntary,and then people will ASK for it,expound the "virtues" of it,and eventually it will be mandatory.But all this will happen quickly,all in a matter of a few short years.But you will have to voluntarily "submit" yourself to it.A vaccination IS a voluntary submission,and no doubt a micro-chip CAN be implanted in that way.

So,in short,Mystery Babylon is the "Church",the Beast is the NWO,which is none other than the Roman Empire revived one last time,Israel is most of the so-called "free first-world",including the Jew and the Mark of the Beast is the embedded micro-chip being trumpeted by the current US administration and soon,the rest of the world.

Sorry,I don't quote Scripture;it's never been my forte.

Hi Rahly;

Very interesting comments - its put a few things in perspective.

Regards
Kimlyn