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    My five cents.

    Some of you met BM, I have not, for which reason I keep a neutral profile, awaiting the outcome of the hearing.

    Also, the fact thath they are arested for money laundering, does not make them guilty. That has to be proven. It may or may not be proven. It depends primarily on the evidence and BM's response, and whichever carries the day.

    For all PIPSters sake, myself included, I hope he is not found guilty. The other part: remember, PIPS is not mentioned in the case in the newspapers, which may be very positive. This basically leaves PIPS out of the picture for now.

    So, I believe there is hope and patience is needed, now more than ever.

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    After-thought.

    I wonder if those, living in Malaysia would make an impression on the court if they came out in force for the hearing in support of BM. If I had the money, I would certainly try it, if it may bring back PIPS, it would be woirth it, don't you think?

    As I said: just an afterthought.

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    As an after thought Peter, I would be more than tempted and inclined, among many others in the neighborhood, given the proximity in distance, to attend should it be a public trial and not behind close session.

    However, I would be more than convinced, the majority would show up with a universal objective.... to see the case root out the truth, to prosecute any that is actually linked to the allegations and accusations the Prosecutor is homing in on, to determine where and in whatever shape or form the available remaining funds can still be recovered and finally, how it can be legally and fairly be best distributed to all recorded responses from Pipsters, with the aid of BN naturally...and to a lesser extent, from the Marsdens themselves (remember, BM insists he knows little that is left of whatever since the servers were impounded) and in conclusion...most Malaysians have only one objective in mind...PAYBACK for what is due... their LOST money loaned to PI Inc....


    I am more than certain...that all the supporting Auspips members in the Forum...however resplendent they may appear to be those cheering chorus behind Bryan all these while...would flock (if they have enough funds left to make the flight to KL for the trials) and see just how they can secure their loans that runs in their THOUSANDS!!!.... to be recouped and say...the most damning support wishes to be heard for the last time and wave goodbye with the recovered money and seek another Investment somewhere else instead....

    That will be emulated by most Malaysians and surrounding countries too where many more are eagerly waiting...IF THAT WISHFUL THINKING does materialize, to have their monies recouped ...SOMEHOW...for a PIPS/BM return????....that's an after thought which would be set back several pages in years of history...my take here, of course, Peter...





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    Quote Originally Posted by YogiBrood View Post
    As an after thought Peter, I would be more than tempted and inclined, among many others in the neighborhood, given the proximity in distance, to attend should it be a public trial and not behind close session.
    I hope PIPSters from Seremban, KL or Melaka would volunteer their time to attend the trial. At least we would have eyes and ears there. I would gladly go but I live in Penang.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nanni View Post
    There are to areas in this world wich the "dark forces" and negative, selfish and ego people really can misuse. Thats money and sex. A lot of trouble in this world have to do with either to of them - or both.

    It seems to me that our relationship to money isn't always healthy. The "old" administration at Pips have showed us that very clearly. Some of them who did let both us and Bryan down, sure didn't think with their heart, but their egoes. And those who made this mess concerning BN didn't care for anyone else than themselves for sure.

    Money is a neutral energy. We can use it and earn it in a good way, or we can use it and earn it in a bad way. It isn't the money who is "evil", it is sad to say, the human being.

    Receiving and earning a lot of money also represent a challenge how to handle the money the right way: How to help ourselves and others, and not bringing other people down because of our own big, selfish egoes.

    The possability to earn a LOT of money intrigued a lot of people to invest in Pips. Most of us for good resons, but some of them for bad reasons too. This year have proved these people where willingly to both steal and destroy to "help themselves". Or maybe they believed they where "smart"?

    So what can we to do to "save" our Pips, and not allow the neagative people to destroy Pips once again?

    I suggest something unexpected. When Pips is up running, I suggest Bryan put a "roof", a limit for how much we can invest. We shall sure get our money wich are already there. But when it comes to new investments, I do belive Bryan needs to figure out something that can prevent the really bad and greedy people to invest too much - and at the end of the day destroy too much for all of us - like they already have and still try to do.

    We do know by now that the % ROL was a bit too high. We have already been told that Bryan needs to restructure Pips. My personal belief is that the % has to be reduced, BUT IT WILL STILL BE GREAT for ordinary people! Bryan wants to help ordinary people and those who doesn't have anything at all. $1000 to $25.000 is still a lot of extra money for very many of us "ordinary" people.

    Maybe we need to think it over, and arrange a Pips where we can handle the money, both the administration and the members? The sad truth is that we didn't handle it in the first place. And we really have to think it over, if we shall succeed in our second try.

    Pips doesn't need to attract those who are going for the really "big" money. They can go elsewhere and create their negative mess. I have sure had enough of them for many years to come.

    And I do know one thing for sure: When Pips raise again, Bryan needs to work together with people having the same spiritual conection as he has himself. There is no doubt in my mind that Bryan has a very good soul. He has idealism in his heart and we know he wants to help the less fortunate. I do know he would have been giving up a long time ago if he didn't have his spiritual wisdom in his heart and contact with a higher purpose for Pips.

    The only way we can survive and let go of the negative people, are to be a part of this spiritual, higher purpose of helping people around us and ourselves to a better life.

    It sure helps to contact our soul and the higher purpose of our inner being. We are here for a reason all of us. We all have something to learn, and life itself are our teacher.
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    I am glad there are people out there who have a spiritual feeling towards money. Not all of us are the greedy buggers who have ruined Pips. As you said BM is not greedy he is out there to help people. He most probably made a few investments that turned sour on him and who is perfect anyway.
    I am sure if BM is left to his own devices he could SORT the whole thing out.
    He was very charitable in the sense that he set up a fund for investors to donate a portion of their profits.
    I say if he is set free then we must give him the chance to sort out this ugly mess with full support from us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by richpap View Post
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    I am sure if BM is left to his own devices he could SORT the whole thing out.
    He was very charitable in the sense that he set up a fund for investors to donate a portion of their profits.
    I say if he is set free then we must give him the chance to sort out this ugly mess with full support from us.

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    That is a pretty big "IF"...LOL

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    Sure got quiet from the Marsden supporters!! lol.. Can we say, hmmmmm.... AWAKENING???

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    Quote Originally Posted by pnorthrop View Post
    Sure got quiet from the Marsden supporters!! lol.. Can we say, hmmmmm.... AWAKENING???
    You do know you're responding to a thread thats almost 2 years old.

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    Quote Originally Posted by arvie View Post
    You do know you're responding to a thread thats almost 2 years old.
    Really?? Another 10 months, it'll be two years.. thx for the info!

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    I am closing this thread and all that are related to the Hallotto disguise deceit.For returning members wanting to trace or track related posts concerning the current development some call it a stupid saga, a farce and even a silly & endless waste of time, well whatever anyone feels opinionated by their individual viewpoints or argument, the Trial on the Marsdens is NOT over and far from closure hence, a main sticky thread will cater to that attention

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    Any further new threads open just for the sake of an individual's ignorance to the progress surrounding the Marsdens or the Trial or anything else on PIPS or PicPay and all the parties involved will find their newly created thread deleted. Issues related to the past and further back in the past, will be posted in the above thread, click that and stay there with your submitted posts please. This is a start of some pruning and spring cleaning on the PIPS related Forum.

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