Speaking from memory,thumper & co got a huge fine,if I remember correctly. One must also remember that he mainly received picpay, which as we all know became "numbers on a screen". I do believe that some paid by paypal and bank transfer,they will have to take the issue up with Thumper, if they have contact details.I wouldn't hold out much hope though.
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10-02-2010, 05:13 AM #1391
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Situation Update: Time is running out
Hi members,
Here's the updates on what is being done or completed:
1. Dates confirmed
2. Flight and Hotels booked
3. Package 1 has arrived safely in my hands
4. Still planning my famly's schedule as well as my classes for replacement.
5. Hot and sunny weather, must take care not to expose my skin
6. Getting ready to testify on behalf of all the claimants
Situation in Malaysia
Outcry over caning
PETALING JAYA (Feb 18, 2010): The announcement yesterday by Home Minister Datuk Seri Hishammuddin Hussein that three women were caned 10 days ago for committing illicit sex under Syariah laws took the nation by surprise.
More so when part-time model Kartika Sari Dewi Shukarno is still waiting to be similarly punished after she was sentenced by the Kuantan syariah court last year but whose case has been delayed as several issues were still unresolved.
Among the questions asked by several non-governmental organisations (NGOs) were the secrecy with which the women was caned, when they were arrested and when were they sentenced.
Sisters in Islam (SIS) ****utive director Dr Hamidah Marican said in a statement that the punishment meted out for illicit sex under syariah laws violates human rights while discriminating against Muslim women in Malaysia.
"Whipping of women under Syariah Criminal Offences legislation contradicts civil law where women are not punishable by caning under Section 289 of the Criminal Procedure Code," she said.
Hishammuddin had announced on Wednesday that three Muslim women were caned in the Kajang Prison on Feb 9 — nine days after the punishment was carried out.
He said seven Syariah offenders comprising four men and three women had been caned with six of them receiving six strokes while the seventh, a woman, received four strokes.
Perkasa Sends Protest Note, Deems Australian Interference Unethical
KUALA LUMPUR, Feb 18 (Bernama) -- The interference by the Australian Members of Parliament (MPs) in Datuk Seri Anwar Ibrahim's sodomy charge is an act of arrogance which goes against the ethics of non-interference in the sovereignty of another country, the National Indigenous Organisation (Perkasa) said.
Independent MP Datuk Ibrahim Ali said the letter, signed by 50 MPs, was also unwarranted, reflecting an uncivilized and ignorant act on their part with regard to Malaysia's laws and political scenario.
"However, I do not blame your act as I presume you and your colleagues have been 'misled' and do not know the actual background to the case and the persons involved," Ibrahim, who is Perkasa president, said in his protest note to the Chairman of the Australian Parliament's Foreign Affairs Subcommittee, Michael Dandy, Thursday.
A foreign news agency had recently reported that more than 50 Australian lawmakers had lodged a formal protest, urging Malaysia to drop the opposition leader's sodomy trial.
Member of governing Labour party Michael Danby handed the protest note to Malaysian High Commissioner Salman Ahmad in Canberra on Friday.
Malay NGOs hold protest, burn effigy of Guan Eng (Updated)
GEORGE TOWN: A group of Malay non-governmental organisations staged a protest at Komtar here after Friday prayers to object against what they claimed was discrimination in the demolition of illegal hawker stalls, burning an effigy of Chief Minister Lim Guan Eng in the process.
The crowd had earlier congregated at Masjid Jamek Simpang Enam before Friday prayers and walked to Komtar in Jalan Magazine, which houses the state government offices, to hand over a memorandum to Lim.
Police failed in trying to block the crowd from staging the walk.
The protest was organised by the Penang Malay Chamber of Commerce and National Malay Students Federation (GPMS).
Also joining the protest was the head of Perkasa, Datuk Paduka Ibrahim Ali, who is also Pasir Mas MP.
When representatives from the group failed to meet Lim at his office in Komtar, the crowd set an effigy representing Lim on fire. They also burnt the memorandum.
Police, including Federal Reserve Unit, were also at the scene to carry out crowd control.
'They don't know the facts'
When told of the incident, Lim brushed off the demonstration as a gathering of people who “do not know the true facts of the situation.”
He said records clearly showed that there had been a larger number of non-bumiputra hawkers who had been brought to book over the last two years.
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Yea, the problem is that thumper and the other Pool administrators who received up to 10 million US are not communicationing with their investors and it is not known if they are trying to secure a refund or not.
They must be up to their neck in lawsuits is the only reason I can figure they are not communicating.
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I've noticed that in several postings it is mentioned that former PIPS investors need to file a claim for what they invested. Does anybody in this forum know where this claim needs to be filed/mailed? I have all of my papers from day 1 when I invested $4700.00. What is the process or procedure in doing this? Thank you for any help in answering my questions.
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I see you were registered with Rolclub sinds 2005. Assuming you were, like many who only read and not post nor interact with your thoughts, queries like now or show interests all these past many months, and you are now ahead of your desire to show interests, I regret to inform you, YOU ARE too late to achieve anything now... unless you are able to switch faster than the SpiderMan or better still, fly faster than the Concorde which is out of service and excel Superman's speed across the globe... you still are too late even if you manage to fly off from wherever you are and walk into the Court as I type this and within 15 minutes, present your Claim with a Statutory Declaration on your credentials and again, the same seal, signature and Office of the Notary that verified your SD as well as on all the documentation as proof of your money invested with all the Investment Plans relating to the Marsdens.
You also need a Lawyer right next by you representing you before the Judge and you have just about 12 minutes more to make your flight into the Courtroom at lightning speed... Court is now in session as I answer you this hour and minute...
YB.
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I’m sure I am amongst 1000’s of members that gave up on this awhile ago not realizing people had to read postings in this rolclub to find out there was $30 million the Bank Negara still had that PIPS investors could go after to recoup their losses. As far as receiving emails notifying members on the events that were occurring, obviously some of us never received any. I appreciated your whitty, yet sarcastic answer to my posting. I am wondering, however, the members that were fortunate to be aware of this, how they arrived at the dollar amounts they invested to recoup if in fact there weren’t any computer records the courts/banks seized when PIPS went down. If I’m understanding this correctly, all the people that are included in this lawsuit, had all of the necessary account information that apparently they saved for the past 4-5 years? I also have to wonder if these members are suing for what their initial investment was, or if they are going to receive/sue for what their investment was supposedly to pay out through the PIPS formulas of what their money would earn. I know you’ll provide me with a detailed explanation. Thank you.
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Hello schaatze,
I can understand your position. Yes there are a lot of investors who were not aware of any Forum to get information and then there are those who knew but were unable to donate money for wharever reason for the cause.
There is also all those Pool administrators who took in millions of dollars but cut off communication to their investors leaving them in the dark as to who was trying to secure a refund for them. They were caught between a rock and a hard place. There were those who said they would help with a refund but requested upfront money which also left some uneasy because they didn't know if they could trust this person receiving the donation.
If refunds are made, usually the most a person can receive is principal minus any interest payments. There are instances where an investor only gets pennies on the dollar or nothing at all.
As for YB's post, that is just the poster's style. You have people from all over the world in this Forum each with their own unique peculiarities.
Good luck and keep reading this Forum for there is good information here on a variety of topics.
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Since you appreciate as you put it, in your own perculiar way to understand, I have no bad feelings at your comments.
If you are a sensitive person by nature, you will interprete it as sarcasm... thats common and I can live with that. If you are as hard core en die-hard a demon (some do refer me after knowing me) as such I may switch easily into, then sarcasm is quite an understatement for your situation...
As others have kindly pointed out for your research, don't take it too hard... live is aplenty and I wish you all the best for your own course.
Now, here is some breaking news!!!
Bryan Marsden is FREE and in The UK already!!!
Hi Everyone,
I am equally stunned but not surprised however, am VERY much curious as to the consequences of their fate....
Yes, Bryan was recently released behind a rather conspicuous arrangement that took place earlier than anticipated despite all the attention surrounding his release date to be in March 2010 but it now appears, he got himself (or both with Sharon) wiggled out based on the good behaviour theory en the likes that somehow shortened his term by another two months above his remission allowance.
Should he be tracked down in UK, or the Bahamas, besides AUS and/or NZ as the likely places to go in search of his "lost treasure", ... I wish them all the luck in staying and surviving long enough to enjoy some life.... for there are bad blood from wrecked nerves willing to have answers sorted out with missing millions still unaccounted for.
What is about to take place in Malaysia, is unprecedented for that country. What is more interesting is, your Claim and disbursement on the approved amount, considered as "what was recovered and made available after the necessary Govt Taxes, Excise and Duties and all that goes along with it", be made available, isn't necessarily over & settled outside Malaysia.
Your money is still part of the entire amount that The Marsdens once collected and wherever it gets spread across the globe, you have a a significant share of that spread and you may, with the proof that was recognized as legit by one Govt, may strongly be accepted for continuation in another country.
The submission on your right of Claim in Malaysia positions you favorably elsewhere too and those that waited and stayed on the sidelines contemplating or remaining hesitant, their chances are very VERY....slim while YOU ALL stand way in advance for the proof and work has already been presented and recognized, until your entire amount is refunded... so, I wish you all the best for more to come wherever the Marsdens are faced with a trial...yet again.
YB.
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Thank you
Thanks for your reply YB. I believe I did respond to be apart off the claimants list in early Dec 09, but no matter. Its been a long journey and that is an end to my participation.
I wish all the claimants the very best, I wish you and batty all the very best and give you both a huge thank you for making the whole adventure possible.
Hopefully the malayan goverment in time will judge that the seized money does indeed belong to the thousands of investors from around the world some of whom lost everthing they had, and not to the bank, government or anybody else outside of the pips members.
The bank seized all records when Bryan Marsden was arrested. The judicial system should order the return of all funds seized to the rightfull owners. Period.
Iwish you all well, journeys end.......
Gaz
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