Anyone who thinks they would ever receive a penny out of PIPS at this point is smoking grass. Brian and his wife stole our money (and/or wasted it on the PIPS Cafes or PIPS Fashion Shows) so I all for him to go to trial, be convicted and live the rest of his natural years in jail.

I gave up on that money a long time ago. Luckily I am in other programs which have and are actually paid me close to the ROR that PIPS was telling us we were to be paid. And isn't something...REAL programs actually don't have a problem paying out the money we earn???

Farewell Brian...

Another way it could be read is that the ROL was coming from other illegal activities.

Denigrate?

You should save your resentment for the person who induced you to send in your hard earned money to him. Where have I ever denigrated a person with an open mind? Closed minds, yes, but never an open mind, so at least get your accusations correct. You can try to twist the charges anyway you want, I could care less, everyone has to come to terms with the truth sooner or later, some much much later than others. (g)

Good luck to all, Mike

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Is the bank claiming that the PIPs program was not legal, so the businesses purchased with those (our) funds was money laundering? Or were funds added in with the PIPS funds with Bryan's knowledge to purchase the restaurant, PIPS Fashions, The Bible programs and so on? We were told that some of the PIPS income was coming from rents and other property deals. Was durg money mixed with our money to make the income look like it was coming from us?



I think I remember at some point we were told that PIPS reached the billion dollor in assets mark. Does anyone remember that besides me?

Wasn't there a Phan in support or accounting?


Are they scape goats who got cough in something too big to handle?

Sept 13 is soon enough...this will be a very interesting case. I would rather give the benefit of think a guilty person to be innocent, than to convect an innocent man. We all got hurt by this, but a billion dollors is a lot of money, would the bank or someones in the government be involved, or is Bryan guilty? He sure didn't like to communicate for some reason. I guess only God knows the truth. I think those who make their money scamming others are the lowest form of life!

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Hi everyone !

Bryan And Sharon Arrested ? It's no wonder... nothing surprises me any more... What do you want ? The road to hell is paved with good intentions and I repeat : "The proof of the pudding is in the eating."

Good luck !

hi; what do you mean you can't hear fat lady singing. is all are gone. we won't get anything back at all???????//

Regarding the charges of money laundering, I am sure that we are all aware that prosecutors the world over, if they desperately want to charge somebody but cannot find a specific offence in their Criminal Code to cover what they have done, will pick the most heinous closely related offence they can find and will then endeavour to persuade the Judge that the relevant statute can be interpreted to cover what they have acutally done.

I also think that the hand of the U.S. regulatory authorities can be seen working behind the scenes in this case. I think it is highly likely that the BN was originally persuaded to act by complaints from U.S. official sources. There is no doubt that the U.S. authorities would have acted to shut down Pips had they been operating in their jurisdiction and they were no doubt highly frustrated by the fact that so many of their citizens were participating and they could do nothing to prevent it. Pips Trust was closed following numerous 'Cease and Desist' orders served by authorities in several countries including the U.S. There can be no doubt that the U.S. authorities were the driving force behind this.

BM told us at the Hawaii convention about the problems he was having with the banks. This may have been a total smokescreen on his part but, if he was telling us the truth, then HSBC served Pips with 30 days notice that they were closing the Pips accounts. An offshore bank apparently solicited their business but, only a couple of months after the accounts were opened, they too served Pips with 30 days notice of closure. Strange action by a bank that apparently went out of their way to get the accounts in the first place! A friend within the banking industry tells me that the most likely cause of this action would be that the U.S. banking authorities served notice on these banks that, if they continued to provide banking service to Pips, their U.S. banking facilities would be withdrawn. This would mean that these banks would be unable to remit or receive funds to or from U.S. banks, not only for Pips but for ALL their customers. If this is correct, it is scarcely surprising that Pips had banking problems.

Brian

Pips sank like a ship nearly 2 years ago, and the money went down with the ship. It never stop amazing me that so many members still think that there is money either in their picpay account or that ROL is still being accumulating or earning profit in the name of PIPS.

PIPS is gone and so is all the money that the members invested!....

Only Bryan and perhaps those that worked very closely with him knows where the money actually went (ship is wrecked)!....

the truth aka hine

Bryan John Marsden - a 58-year-old British national - and his Malaysian wife Phan Sew Ken, 50
Phan Sew Ken, is that Sharon Marsden. hmmm

Yes, thats sharon