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And making false accusations against a person and deliberately spreading false infos, thus agitating hundreds and thousands people against someone - based on lies and conjecture - is in fact slanderous! But bear this in mind: what goes around comes around! And I am the last one here to fear anything ;-)
This has very much to do with this very thread as it is used by agitators like you to insidiously fuel unsubstantiated hatred against other persons. You should be ashamed! How can you still sleep well?
So to sum up:
False info - warning against a failed money-scheme, and a businessman with a very bad track-record who currently is in jail.
Correct info: 911 was staged by US government, M15 was behind the London-bombings, Marsden and his genius PIPS-system was a direct threat to the NWO controlled supersecret banksystem...etc etc
I find it interesting that PIPS was not accused of running a Ponzi or some sort of scam. Is it that when one is accused of money laundering or receiving illegal funds, the confiscating agency has the right to keep those funds? If a scam is perpetrated, shouldn't the victims receive the confiscated funds? As for the funds being "laundered" or illegal, all of the thousands that I know was sent to PIPS came from "clean" sources: the earnings of US citizens who worked hard for their money. This money did not need to be washed.
Does anyone know what the "illegal" sources were for money that needed "laundering?" Where did the "illegal" money come from?
I know. I know. Governments NEVER do anything illegal or morally wrong to people. Especially not the US government. That government would NEVER pressure another government to do anything that might cause the lowly proletariat to lose money.
Is there another "first'' world country that does not own its own money (not including those who are now using the Euro)? Perhaps, just perhaps, those that own the dollar, does not want too many dollars to fall into proletarian hands?
I find it interesting that PIPS was not accused of running a Ponzi or some sort of scam. Is it that when one is accused of money laundering or receiving illegal funds, the confiscating agency has the right to keep those funds? If a scam is perpetrated, shouldn't the victims receive the confiscated funds? As for the funds being "laundered" or illegal, all of the thousands that I know was sent to PIPS came from "clean" sources: the earnings of US citizens who worked hard for their money. This money did not need to be washed.
Does anyone know what the "illegal" sources were for money that needed "laundering?" Where did the "illegal" money come from?
I know. I know. Governments NEVER do anything illegal or morally wrong to people. Especially not the US government. That government would NEVER pressure another government to do anything that might cause the lowly proletariat to lose money.
Is there another "first'' world country that does not own its own money (not including those who are now using the Euro)? Perhaps, just perhaps, those that own the dollar, does not want too many dollars to fall into proletarian hands?
Thus far as I understand it, the "illegal" funds are deposits being made to NEWMARK and other pips entities without the correct licences.Maybe Malaysia gets to keep the cash this way?
As for the charges,it would appear that BNM have only investigated the EON Bank.More to follow surely?
And where is the Billions that went into or through the bank in Panama?
Ok, so the fat lady is doing vocalizes, and yes I agree with most that PIPS is probably ready for a really great Irish wake :) but where is all of the money in Panama? Who is keeping track of this? and is anyone stupid enough to believe that a multi billion dollar corporation only had one set of books, and no idea what accounts it had money in...
I am one of those small account holders, my $2,000 was alot to me ($1.5 mil by now, If I had gotten any of it) then and now. Yet every time I have mentioned Panama SOMEONE has said- forget about that and move on.
So what did happen to the money in Panama? Does anyone have any idea?
Oh, and no I don't want to FORGET ABOUT IT!!!
Last edited by pottersoon; 08-09-2006 at 06:00 PM.
perhaps BM lied and there never was any money in Panama?
And I'm sick of seeing "a multi billion dollar corporation " PIPS was a moderately sized Ponzi Scheme, not IBM.
After showing his ignorance about the Sovereign Society, as well as about the quatloos site, I have tended to discount or suspect every comment that Owen Platt makes; but, according to him, Bryan did not pay for or get a corporate setup with bank in Panama. Like he said, he may have opened a "private" account. I don't know, but Bryan was there and met briefly with Bill--of the now BTI forum. What Bryan did there is anybody's guess.
After showing his ignorance about the Sovereign Society, as well as about the quatloos site, I have tended to discount or suspect every comment that Owen Platt makes; but, according to him, Bryan did not pay for or get a corporate setup with bank in Panama. Like he said, he may have opened a "private" account. I don't know, but Bryan was there and met briefly with Bill--of the now BTI forum. What Bryan did there is anybody's guess.
Regards,
thelema
Agreed Thelema. Quatlooser is nothing more than an IRS propaganda site and Jay is the ultimate shill...
Hi Thelema,
the response I got when I enquitred about Pips Panama office was as follows (it's quoted in full in the book):
“We are not agents for Pips Incorporated. A Bryan Marsden ordered two companies early last year which were formed for him and his associates. Only later did we find they were using our office address and running a possibly fraudulent investment scheme. We know nothing else about them.
As registered agent for the two companies, I can confirm that they have not paid their annual fees and the companies in question are therefore not in good standing…………”
Raul Garcia,
Attorney at Law,
Sovereign Management Services s.a.
It's a popular misconception that Panama is a laissez faire jurisdiction. Without the cooperation of a friendly registered agent it is impossible to open a bank account - if Marsden did manage the trick, I shall be surprised but most certainly BNM can find out.
As for the Sovereign Society, I have spent quite a bit of time on their stands at the offshore trade show, Shorex. Nothing especially wrong with them except that their members are paying for advice that they could well find out for themselves. And as a libertarian organisation, some of their tax dodges are suspect. One thing about Jay Adkisson, none of his clients have wound up in jail!
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