Thread: Signing Up On The Main Page Of Ha Lotto

Also needing to be mentioned is the fact that although ROLC's downline/matrix is full, meaning Marek's got a "full boat", the rest of those that have joined under him do not. I'm in ROLC's top tier and while my top 3 levels are full I still need over 500 in my bottom level to fill it out. Being that spillover will fill up the "upper" levels first, only signups under ROLC's "leg" will continue ROLC's "filling out" process. If someone signs up directly using HA Lotto's URL, it will go to one of the other "top tier" downlines and not necessarily ROLC's. Only if all of the other matrices have more members signed up than ROLC will the spillover help ROLC.

Originally Posted by everwiser

Also needing to be mentioned is the fact that although ROLC's downline/matrix is full, meaning Marek's got a "full boat", the rest of those that have joined under him do not. I'm in ROLC's top tier and while my top 3 levels are full I still need over 500 in my bottom level to fill it out. Being that spillover will fill up the "upper" levels first, only signups under ROLC's "leg" will continue ROLC's "filling out" process. If someone signs up directly using HA Lotto's URL, it will go to one of the other "top tier" downlines and not necessarily ROLC's. Only if all of the other matrices have more members signed up than ROLC will the spillover help ROLC.

BINGO,

That is exactly right, so we all have to get busy. (g)

Good luck to all, Mike

Originally Posted by Offshore-Wealth.com

I am referring to the five individual matrices as legs, and whether we are speaking of binary or matrix, they both have legs. If you registered under one of these legs, ROL, AU, HA, Pioneer, Default, whatever, you will not have any impact on the other legs as each is a seperate matrix within the main matrix.

Yes, ROL is full, but only those in ROL matrix will benefit others in ROL, not those in other legs, or whatever you want to call them, they are all independent matrices and do not overlap, so you fall into one of these matrices, and anything you do personally will only fall into the same leg, unit, whatever. There is no way your efforts can impact others in their own matrices, it does not work that way, so I have to disagree. They will not fall wherever, only within the boundaries of each five matrices. Hope that is more to the point I was trying to make.

Simply put, when a level is filled in your matrix, it will move down one to first position to left in next level. It does not keep moving to the right until it is in last position to left of all five matrices, so as you can see, you have to look at matrix not as one, but as many many under one, each independent of the other. It would be nice to see each group post their matrix like Marek did to see it more clearly. You will then see how unbalanced the whole matrix is, which ROL having the most people and the deepest levels filled, while the others have less as it now stands.

Good luck to all, Mike

I was just asking question to Bryan about this issue(waiting for answer).

Well as you say it spillover benefit will get only members under strong recruter and promoter, so if other 4 of top legs do not bring new mebers as good as no. 5 , downline in other 4 legs will have bad luck and earnings would not be as good.

As I was saying distribution of spillover among all 5 top legs would be fair and equal.

I will wait for Bryan's answer so than we will know real deal.

Thanks for sharing your thoughts.

Originally Posted by newlife

I was just asking question to Bryan about this issue(waiting for answer).

Well as you say it spillover benefit will get only members under strong recruter and promoter, so if other 4 of top legs do not bring new mebers as good as no. 5 , downline in other 4 legs will have bad luck and earnings would not be as good.

As I was saying distribution of spillover among all 5 top legs would be fair and equal.

I will wait for Bryan's answer so than we will know real deal.

Thanks for sharing your thoughts.

No problem, we are just discussing how the system works, so let us know when Bryan answers. Technically, if fairness was to work for everyone, then we should have all registered under default HA admin, or whatever top position is, but once you roll it out as was done, it is too late, as all others follow the same matrix they started in. As ROL was the stongest leg, it only made sense that this would be the first matrix to fill out, but if it was promoted with HA as link, then there would be a balanced completed matrix plus. I know Bryan was moving some around, so who knows, it may have changed a few people into other legs.

Good luck to all, Mike

Hi, all,
afaik Bryan wrote that
(*) root's spill-over is distributed in rotation:
http://www.rolclub.com/showthread.php?p=51917#post51917
(**) affiliate's spill-over is distributed top to bottom, left to right:
http://www.rolclub.com/showthread.php?p=52468#post52468

To this, I added a few questions at halotto forum's 'matrix questions' thread - fyi:

(*) Maybe someone can search the forum and inform you... or ask Bryan to confirm that this hasn't been changed since?

Btw: if true, this imo means that your position as such doesn't influence the share of root spill-over you get: you'll get one new downline in each 'round' whereever you are, whether it be a big or a small leg... It's your own downline growth which'll determine how much root spill-over you'll attract.

The only thing I wonder about is if *all* affiliates get one in turn... or only those with still an empty spot on their level 1. And if all... suppose your level 1 is already full... which position will be filled then...

(**) And... I suppose that when the 4 levels of your downline are full, new recruited affiliates will still drill down inside your submatrix to the fifth level (or lower) to the next free spot(s)... So even though you (like rolclub for example) won't profit anymore from these, the rest of your downline will.

If these assumptions are true... it depends on your definition of solidarity which sign up link to use: yours for you & your downline, rolclub's for the rolclub group as a whole or the root's for the entire matrix (including not only rolclub's but the downlines of the other level 1 places as well). (Right?)

I hope this makes sense, as I don't follow halotto anymore in detail...
Hasse

My thoughts on the matrix.

Some people don’t seem to realize that their commission income will only come from their downline in THEIR OWN MATRIX.

Affiliates above them or beside them do not create income for them.

If your matrix is not filled (and few are at this stage) you should be promoting your own signup link. If your first five is in place, future signups would go under them and so on, until your matrix is filled.

If your matrix is filled you could continue to promote your own signup link and the spillover would go left to right into your fifth level (no commission for you here). What that would do is help strengthen your downline affiliates matrixes.

If the people in your upline are doing this, you should see some spillover from them. This will help to fill your matrix faster.
If they are not, then you are on your own.

Also by promoting your own signup link some people may join as members. When these members buy lotto tickets, you get commission.

If you were promoting any other signup link, the member signups would go to them and not you. And the affiliates may or may not end up in your matrix.

cmr

Seems obvious that people should promote their own link rather than any other......but maybe that is just not complicated enough for some?

Dave

Well, addhesive, somethimes people have other motives than barely looking for themselves, you know. Indeed that aint that simple... and not obvious at all... but it happens...
Hasse

Fyi, in addition to my earlier post...

Originally Posted by Hasse

Hi, all,
afaik Bryan wrote that
(*) root's spill-over is distributed in rotation: (...)

(*) Maybe someone can search the forum and inform you... or ask Bryan to confirm that this hasn't been changed since?

Btw: if true, this imo means that your position as such doesn't influence the share of root spill-over you get: you'll get one new downline in each 'round' whereever you are, whether it be a big or a small leg... It's your own downline growth which'll determine how much root spill-over you'll attract.

The only thing I wonder about is if *all* affiliates get one in turn... or only those with still an empty spot on their level 1. And if all... suppose your level 1 is already full... which position will be filled then...

(...)

Bryan confirmed in his latest CEO announcement at halotto forum that he switched on the rotation, although slightly changed to benefit more members. Root spillover, a new member signing up under the default site, will be allocated to the first member in the database that has less than 3 members on thir first level. When that member has two it then allocates to the next member with less than 3 and so on. This way, he states, all members will get their downlines started.
Take care,
Hasse

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