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Old 13-11-2006, 06:21 AM
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Very interested in #1. #2 needs a lot more clarification. Not interested in #3.
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Dear all

Full information will be provided with all details from "How to" do this.
Portal is a time consuming thing, but i have polands best programmers i write contract with today. I like the portal idea so much, that i will go ahead with it anyhow..

Regarding nr 2. I was thinking more to sell the tank to the industry and private people, rather then selling diesel. Selling diesel is not what i had in mind, and i can not answer any questions regarding that, as this regulated by law in your country, so kindly check. The production price for diesel is 25%, and all 6 things needed are very very easy to obtain all over.

If i can manage to get a deal going with the traders, i would probably change the plan 3 to 5% program without surfing, But with surfing one can always add the ads income from the surfing, and add it to outpayments for members.

I would say a combination of these programs can lead to good and reliable income over time. But if you have anything very very low risk or no risk, kindly do share it with us here now, we are discussing this.

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Default Bring it on

I also like all 3 particually if #2 could be reduced to say 100 litres a day
I would hope that #3 is not anthing like what the old Ymmss was.
What about setting up a phone system thru powerlines which is happening in Tasmania --Australia.
I know of one company that saved $1,250000 in 12 months thru Skype.
We need to develope a source of income from something that everybody uses every day.
eg.--fuel--phone--electricity ( maybe have our own wind generators)
Just my few thoughts.
Graeme from Australia
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Default I still have questions and little money !!

Yes I would like to join , modestly, a programme that does earn and produce a better than a basic return. The diesel tank idea sounds good - but - think about the individual user. Would be too much capital outlay and produce too much diesel. Pehaps a smaller model that would be more realistic for the average person would be worth investigating. Also quality of diesel would need to be up to standard. What ingrediants are requred to put in etc ?

Number 1 sounds good as a passive safe ? programme

Thanks for your efforts

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Yes I would like to join , modestly, a programme that does earn and produce a better than a basic return. The diesel tank idea sounds good - but - think about the individual user. Would be too much capital outlay and produce too much diesel. Pehaps a smaller model that would be more realistic for the average person would be worth investigating. Also quality of diesel would need to be up to standard. What ingrediants are requred to put in etc ?

Number 1 sounds good as a passive safe ? programme

Thanks for your efforts

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Hi Bobglyn

Yes nr 1 is my favorit also, but its time consuming also. I have one of polands best teams to setup the portals for us. The portals can lead to huge income over time.

Regarding the diesel idea, i have heard both sides. There are infact many that has contact me already about by such tank.LOL.
Well, one does not need to run it each day. If you think of personal use, one can make diesel for own use only. Quality is very very good. Its also called bio diesel, if you have heard of it. Selling diesel would not be so easy, and its not what i had in mind when i posted point nr2, but members keep thinking that. Some do not need to obtain anything in their county to sell diesel, good for them, other need alot.

My main idea was to market it to industy, farms, private persons. Such a diesel tank can save housholds lots of money over time. Think about it....

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To sell diesel, you would probably need to obtain special permissions in your country, and not all would be able to do that.

But the plan i had in mind was not to sell diesel, but rather sell the tank from private persons to industry. I had a meeting with this company last week.

Just for a test i and my friend filled up our car with max diesel fule for free , and drove around all day. It worked very well.

All information on this idea will be provided, and i will myself also be doing this with many Rolclub members, that has contacted me regarding this over PM.

This is how the Diesel producing tank looks like.


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This sounds quite promising actually. I am thinking about construction companies with excavators, backhoes and other equipment that requires a lot of diesel. Also, trucking firms, bus companies, taxi and delivery companies, etc etc. I don't really see much of a market for individuals, but to me the industrial area is nothing but one gigantic market.

HOWEVER, what concerns me is the government regulations, etc etc and the source of the raw product that is fed into these machines. To me we would have to do a great deal of "due diligence" here to have the answers to all the questions raised by potential customers. That's a lot of work if you are considering selling these on an international basis.
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Admin,

All the 3 business opportunities are viable, but deciding which
to go for is quite a difficult choice.
Why don't we start off with the one that require the least
start-up cost, and work our way up from there?

If we carry on and discuss which to go for first, then the
time factor is against us.
My view: Just Do It!

There will definitely be lots of problems and unforeseen
circumstances when we are in the process, but I believe
we will be able to resolve it along the way.
Taking the first little step-out now is the most
important issue.

Stay Cool all the way........
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Admin,

All the 3 business opportunities are viable, but deciding which
to go for is quite a difficult choice.
Why don't we start off with the one that require the least
start-up cost, and work our way up from there?

If we carry on and discuss which to go for first, then the
time factor is against us.
My view: Just Do It!

There will definitely be lots of problems and unforeseen
circumstances when we are in the process, but I believe
we will be able to resolve it along the way.
Taking the first little step-out now is the most
important issue.

Stay Cool all the way........
See, Nr1 has most expenses bound to it, and it starts paying well over time. Probably the best choice here also.

Nr2 does not require anything out of our pocket, unless you plan to buy it yourself. You sell it to the industry market, and when you get paid upfront, is when you place the order with the dieseltank company.

Nr3. We can either go with the 5% surf,and pay members from ads income + traders gains each month, or we can look at a totally new oppertunity.
My friend wendy from australia presented for me something that was indeed very very good. Have a look

http://www.vmdirect.com/cavaghan

I know this company has made many members millions, since it started, but again, this needs alot of work, and only those with laser focus on things would be able to make anything out of it.

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This sounds quite promising actually. I am thinking about construction companies with excavators, backhoes and other equipment that requires a lot of diesel. Also, trucking firms, bus companies, taxi and delivery companies, etc etc. I don't really see much of a market for individuals, but to me the industrial area is nothing but one gigantic market.

HOWEVER, what concerns me is the government regulations, etc etc and the source of the raw product that is fed into these machines. To me we would have to do a great deal of "due diligence" here to have the answers to all the questions raised by potential customers. That's a lot of work if you are considering selling these on an international basis.

HI Cdn.

Well when it comes to the raw product, here is what is needed.

1. Food oil ( can also ask all McDonalds or restaurants in the are to give you the waste oil for free.)

2. Metanol ( Can get it everywhere)

3. Catalizor ( something that is in the tank already).

4. methyloester ( we can provide it, or can be found all over)

5. glycerin ( Can be obtained all over)

All this in the diesel tank, and it regulated the mentioned products by itself. Leave it on for 24h, and you have your (bio) diesel.

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Long time reader, first post. The Portal idea definetly has possibilities, so does the Diesel fuel which can be done in ones garage to make it for ones own use, and yes the tax collecters expect us to pay the road taxes on it, the third option I am not very interested in but what the hey, multiple streams of income is safest right? Big Al
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