Thread: HALotto...Forced Matrix...hmmmm

Originally Posted by Offshore-Wealth.com

Interesting,

After all this wasted time with no word on why, the wind is out of the sales of most people I had promoted lotto to. After all the effort promoting HA, and then dead silence for two months, it was a waste of time and effort, never mind money. I was priming everyone for the launch, as many were doing, and it doesn't take long for people to look elsewhere, which is exactly what I did when I joined Global-Won lotto.

So with more changes to matrix, and now a $30.00 commitment per week to qualify, I can say with knowledge, it won't go over well with most. In Global-Won which has been running for 8 weeks, it had a $100. per month qualifier, and attrition killed it, so they removed this, and it revived momentum, so we already learned the lesson in Global-Won which I have researched closely from concept to launch.

If the tickets are still $5.00 each, this puts it out of the relm of affordability for most, just as it did with Global-Won, so it really doesn't make much difference where you are in matrix as most will not qualify which will unfortunately set the stage for a major problem with attrition. I won't hold my breath again for I am still blue in the face from last launch of any day now. LOL Just my opinion, but a well founded one on experience with same type of lotto as HA.

Good luck to all, Mike

Hi Mike

When we discussed Global Won earlier, I was of the impression that they were going to implement your reversed matrix plan. What did I misunderstand?

BTW. It's going well with the 2 X 10 reversed matrix I told you about. I amlookingaround for a good programmer now.....

Originally Posted by Shell

Hi Mike

When we discussed Global Won earlier, I was of the impression that they were going to implement your reversed matrix plan. What did I misunderstand?

BTW. It's going well with the 2 X 10 reversed matrix I told you about. I amlookingaround for a good programmer now.....

Hi Shelly,

Like everything, you learn as you go, and the current changes were needed immediately to keep momentum, so more changes and adjustments are needed until you find the right balance, so it may take a few months as more data is collected.

Good luck to all, Mike

Originally Posted by Offshore-Wealth.com

Hi Shelly,

Like everything, you learn as you go, and the current changes were needed immediately to keep momentum, so more changes and adjustments are needed until you find the right balance, so it may take a few months as more data is collected.

Good luck to all, Mike

That means you are going to implement the reversed matrix plan, but with some adjustments, right?

Back to the drawing board.... anyway, time is NOT the issue here, sustaining patience is....and all anyone can comfort any other is: hold on to your reins while you progress positively with other options all around and about...

Be Cool, coz with placing a hunch, BET if you will, it still needs calculated risks and a broad smile in advance should the chips be swiped away from you.

YB.

Originally Posted by whatever

I'm not "matrix savvy" but I did read and re-read Bryan's post. Nowhere does he say one needs to have a full matrix below them. That is why Tiffany wrote what she did, because of how Bryan presents it. His post, and correct me if I am wrong, certainly implies that everyone can make the 10,225 in commissions and more... doesn't it?

Yes...that's how it reads...I was thinking if this is true, and we had one person/whatever to sign through, we would be able to fill up definitely one or two matrices in no time flat! Just with the RC people alone...and with forces and spillover....

The problem is 'holes'. Something I simply couldn't understand is why someone would sign up for a program like this and then not participate and thus, cause an unwanted hole and commissions get all messed up for everyone else. It's a nice thought about the 'purging' of inactive members each month though...but how long could it honestly last?

If the same members of a matrix each bought 6 tix each week, and didn't bother attempting to sell to any 'outsiders' of the matrix, is a program like this sustainable? I don't see how spending $120 a month could 'make' each person $10 grand... (Without some sort of outside investing with the funds to gain percentages...)

I'm jumping around a bit, I know, and also thinking out loud (which sometimes can be dangerous! lol!) But, Bryan had P*ps going just fine for quite some time, and it makes me think that he really wouldn't even attempt to launch anything that he didn't KNOW would work and benefit people and charity... it would just dis-credit him from EVER having anyone join another one of his programs....That is why I'm trying to wrap my brain around this one and see if I can figure out what is going to make it tick!

Originally Posted by whatever

I'm not "matrix savvy" but I did read and re-read Bryan's post. Nowhere does he say one needs to have a full matrix below them. That is why Tiffany wrote what she did, because of how Bryan presents it. His post, and correct me if I am wrong, certainly implies that everyone can make the 10,225 in commissions and more... doesn't it?

Obviously, you don't have to have a full matrix, but very few will, and that was the point made. A wide matrix makes it possible for only if you are in the first 3 levels realistically speaking. Once you are on the forth level, where there are 625, then for those to each have a full matrix, you need hundreds of thousands of people who are all purhasing or selling $120.00 a month in tickets.

No doubt about it, you will see massive attrition, so sorry folks, I have seen it a million times over, this is what kills every MLM which does not have a product or service of value beyond the cost. Lotto does not fit that category, so having had experience in this model, which is somewhat new, it remains to be seen what will happen, but don't count on the $10,225. or you will certainly be disappointed, as it just won't happen for all but a few dozen at the top, and then only for a few weeks due to attrition. Oh well, you always have the chance of winning ticket. (g)

Good luck to all, Mike

Originally Posted by Offshore-Wealth.com

Once you are on the forth level, where there are 625, then for those to each have a full matrix, you need hundreds of thousands of people who are all purhasing or selling $120.00 a month in tickets.
Good luck to all, Mike

Which is more than UNLIKELY....IMHO...better regarded as "wishful thinking" even by the best opportunist with a keg filled with optimism!!!

YB.

Originally Posted by YogiBrood

Which is more than UNLIKELY....IMHO...better regarded as "wishful thinking" even by the best opportunist with a keg filled with optimism!!!

YB.

I'll drink to that YB, set em up. (g)

Good luck to all, Mike

Bryan says:

"I have changed the affiliate matrix to a 5 x 4, it is still a forced matrix but it means that it will only take 780 members to fill a matrix and with all members selling their required tickets each week you will be able to earn $10,225 a month and more in commission."

"You" in his post it refers to the person at the top pf the matrix. In a full matrix, only one person will make the $10,000. In order for the 625 members on the 4-th level of the first matrix to make 10,000 each, about 500,000 members need to join.

Thanks Mike and Tiff for the input. Of course it sounds TOO good to be true that all one needs to do is spend 120 bucks to make 10,225!! And yet, that is exactly how Bryan's post reads. If "you" meant only those at the top of the matrix, then it should have made that distinction very clearly, which it did not. Not everyone has an advanced understanding of how a matrix even works, and could be misinformed as to how many truly benefit.