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    Any info on why the site is down (I ask fully aware of the most probable answer!!)

    I receive this whan accessing the site:
    "Temporarily offline"

    I had just made my first WD too!! Same dang thing happened with PIPS!! Make my first request....BAM...site gone!!

    I'm beginning to think it's me guys!! I must be the common link between programs that disappear!! I can join them all....but when I request a payout...well!! Thats NOT gonna happen!! They all of a sudden have e-gold issues. LOL!!

    Well, luckily I am in a few that are hanging in and doing well!! LOL!!
    I believe I have FINALLY found the right program!! Check it out!
    www.macklin.124online.com

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    There's no update from admin since the site was down.
    I have a bad luck with this one too. I requested withdrawal 1 day before the site went "temporarily offline"

    It's game over.

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    Final update about TenForever. This is from the site.

    Dear TenForever Members



    My name is Rick, personal aide, technical assistant and best friend of Joe Hunter, the admin of TenForever and TF-Surf. After struggling through a great dilemma, I decided I should make this post on his behalf.



    It isn’t easy at allfor me to tell you what I am going to. But I wanted to come here to clear Joe’s name because I love him and he is not what some of you are thinking now.



    I will leave out the nitty-gritty details because I have to respect his privacy as a chain of events related to his personal life has led to what is happening now.



    Last week, Joe detected something fishy with the two investment funds he had with an offshore company which he trusted all his life because it had made him a lot of money. He had invested a rather large percentage of his members’ money in it and so he could not afford to let anything happen to that. He immediately flew over to that company to find out what was wrong and to do what he could to take out the money before the worst happened.



    Alas, Joe alone could not save the funds. He lost a big part of it and knew he could never recover the loss…at least not in this life time. He was extremely depressed, devastated and sort of went into a frenzy! I have never seen him like that but I can imagine his sorrow and misery. He had let down 3500 members, many who regarded him as a personal friend and trusted him so much. In my personal view, he is still worth all that trust.



    I personally vouch for Joe’s honesty and integrity. I have known him for 20 over years and I have never seen a more honest person than Joe, nor a kinder soul than his. That is why I agreed to lend him my hand to run the technical side of the programs (as a webmaster) although I know nothing about investments.



    Many of you would think that he had run away with the money and had made wild speculations about how much that would be. I can understand how you feel...and I know that no matter what I say, most of you will never love Joe the way you did anymore. All I can tell you is, if you look back at how Joe built the program, it would be very silly of him to run away after 5 months when he could have done that long ago! Why did he bother to go thru the numerous fight with hackers and all others just to keep the program alive, if all he wanted was to scam your money? Because Joe really believed he could help all of you here, while increasing his profits with a large fund he gathered from you. And I think he really did. Most of you already made money from his relentless efforts and financial expertise.



    And if he wanted to scam, he wouldn't take the site down as soon as there was a problem. He could let it run for another week and collect even more before performing a Harry Houdini stunt. He asked me to take down the site and put a temporary hold to it while he was still in negotiation with the offshore company. Alas, there was no turning back for him.



    Everyone makes mistakes, and Joe is no exception. I am not here to tell you we should forgive Joe for his mistake in that investment. Neither should we throw stones at him because investments, after all, are just a form of gambling – less risky, but still risky. Perhaps Joe boasted about his time-proven strategies…but I witnessed them, they really were! I saw how he built his wealth over the years. What actually caused him to make this mistake now, I think even Joe wouldn’t know.



    But Joe didn’t boast about one thing: The backup fund. He had a large back up fund from the profits he made since he found his magical strategies years ago. He said it was able to backup dollar-for-dollar, although I thought he exaggerated quite a bit. He reasoned that as the program progresses, the backup fund will get bigger with the savings he made from the continuous stream of profits. And he dedicated this fund to his beloved TenForever members!



    Joe is a cautious man and knew that if anything happened to him, someone will have to use this fund to recover members’ loss. So, long ago, he had entrusted me with a certain amount of money. I will not disclose this amount because it will get me into more trouble and will hinder my effort to execute the refund process. The amount isn’t big at all, but it will at least pay the majority of you. I have not calculated how much I am able to refund, and please be warned that it is not possible to refund 100% to all of you. So we’ll have to settle for a balance somewhere. What I have with me isn’t all that there is for the backup fund. Knowing him inside out, I am sure he had kept the rest of it with at least a few other people – and he would never tell me who they are!



    I will need a week or two to work out all the accounts based on the database records I have with me. Being his webmaster, I have access to his server but not his e-gold accounts. What I have is a sum of money he had entrusted me with to make the refund. And I promise to serve Joe his trust for him by making an as fair refund as I can figure out. Again, I stress that I am unable to refund 100% to all of you, not to mention the profits you should be having. I guess, in a situation like this, a small loss is better than a total loss. I'll have to work out the refund algorithm but may not make an official announcement because I know all of you will have different views on how the money should be refunded. And I don't have time to argue on that.



    So what happened to the rest of the money? I honestly don’t know. It could still be with the offshore company, which only Joe is able to have information on. It could be in his other e-gold accounts. It could be anywhere.



    And where is Joe now? Has he run away and gone into hiding?



    No, he hasn’t. Joe is lying on a bed next to me, in coma. He took an overdose of anti-depression drug because he couldn’t take the blow…he could have killed himself with that amount, but I found him in time. He sent me a message on the cell phone and said he was so devastated and said the pain was just too unbearable. I said I'll come and accompany but he refused (he's never done that to me for the 20 years I know him). The devastation he went through did not come from loss in the investment alone. There was a chain of unhappy events in his personal life that led to all this -- and during which he still had to deal with hackers, cheaters in the program, server problems, etc.



    So what about TenForever and TF-Surf? With that amount of overdose, it will probably take a miracle for Joe to wake up any time soon. And from what I gather from the doctors, he won't wake up with a "good brain". So I hope all of you know where I am coming from if I say it's over now. Both programs are done for.



    Believe me, Joe is a genius. Perhaps a genius who had made a mistake, which perhaps some of you will forgive and many of you not. But I beg you all to think about how many people Joe has helped in the short 5 months, rather than a wrong investment decision he had. He did all the work and shouldered all the responsibilities, stress and braved many attacks. Even extortions, if you remember. To me, Joe had never cheated a single one of you to this day. He had meant well and aimed to help as many people as he can in this usually upsetting industry.



    I expect some of you to think of this as bulls**t and I don’t expect everyone to believe what I say here. But I still have to tell you what I know and can tell. I can't tell you how to think of Joe, but I'm sure Joe didn't want all these to happen too. He is a human, not God, so he can't predict everything. He has lots of foresight, but that doesn't mean things will always turn out the way he foresaw. And greed had not taken over him. Nor temptation. If you knew how much more money he could have made, you will believe me.



    I will be busy on the accounts and the refund algorithm. I will update if I have any news. Meanwhile, please understand that seeing Joe in the state that he is now feels almost like losing him already. He is my best friend for 20 years! I am very sad and I hope to tell Joe that I honored his trust for me by doing what he entrusted me to. I hope he can hear me although he won't respond. I could have just run away with the money he trusted me with but hell no, an honest man has an honest friend. I have always admired and respected him, and hope I could be half like him. I'm not gay, but I really love him. Some of you don't even know him and already loved him so much. Can you imagine being his best friend?





    Sincerely,

    Rick,

    On behalf of Joe Hunter.



    P/S: I will no be able to answer any emails, unless you want to slow down the refund process. And I don't have any access to the programs' email accounts as they are all forwarded to hotmail. Joe didn't want to keep them on the server in case the server goes down and he won't be able to answer mails. That's Joe!

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    be careful . right now site is in trouble

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