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chicosan · #**631** (**permalink**) 02-10-2007, 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by LynnRE

chicosan: In regard to this statement of yours, and I quote: "Guess you missed all those legal rulings that upheld that what is said in an open public forum is not against the law; and not slander.

One word of caution....don't bet the farm on that." and this one, and again I quote: "There are NO facts....just opinions."

Since you have stated there are no facts just opinions, you cannot be sued for slander. Now you really arent' that ignorant are you, or do you just want to try and play word games?

But I do know this about you. You have bragged that you have "made money" from programs that are scams. This means that you have received stolen money.

I wasn't bragging...just stating a fact. I have made $$$ from scams and so have tens of thousands of others. We live in a world where stealing is a government pre-requisite. If it makes you feel big to label this stealing, let that be your opinion.

Guess you missed the definition of what a scam/Ponzi is, but glad you are proud of your ill-gotten gains.

Your "holier than thou" attitude stinks.

The gains from a scam program are no more ill-gotten than you winning a lottery or the Federal Reserve in the US stealing the citizens blind or George Bush robbing US citizens of ALL their rights.

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LynnRE · #**632** (**permalink**) 02-10-2007, 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by chicosan

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Guess you have a problem differentiating what is legal versus illegal. Since you seem to have a problem understanding the difference, let me explain it for you. Lotteries are legal. They are licensed and allowed to conduct business. When a person buys a lotto ticket, they know the odds of their winning, and they know they could also lose.

A Scam is an ILLEGAL activity. It is STEALING. Only those early in get paid, and that is paid by those who follow who will receive nothing. A Scam "claims" all will win. Not just one or possibly multiple winners, but everyone. Do you really believe that if everyone who is conned into investing in a scam was told upfront that only the first in would be paid, they would sign-up? You have got to be kidding me, or you are totally delusional.

I love it when you have to throw in President Bush to try and bolster your arguement What a hoot. Love how you always try to compare *****s to oranges, but I digress.

So if you really don't think it is a big deal that you "Made," and I use that term lightly, money that was stolen from others, what's your beef? Obviously you don't think there is anything wrong with it.

LynnRE · #**633** (**permalink**) 02-10-2007, 09:09 AM

Chicosan: Since you have stated you do not promote GPP, nor are you a member, maybe you can clarify these statements of yours, and I quote:

"I also have a few trying to sign up." Page 22

Total Members In our Plan: 92928 Page 22

Total Members In our Plan: 96483 Page 23

Seems to indicate you are a member and are promoting it by having people sign up.

As for your non-endorsement of GPP, here are but just a few of your statements doing so:

"This is not the first year that GPP have paid out a program and it won't be the last. Saying that it is not something I would believe proves they do not understand how reverse pensions work.......and they do work and are legal."

"Even when we do received payment, we will likely be bound by an NDA (Non Disclosure Agreement) that we would need to sign indicating that we will not disclose ANYTHING about GPP. The vast majority of corps online and offline use this." or this one:

"Firstly.....RPPs have been around privately for over 5 years and at least one has already paid out as advertised (NDA). Secondly.....RPPs are not conventional TEPs, but an investment vehicle privately used by some Insurance companies in Europe and are legit."

I look forward to your clarifying this for me.

berty · #**634** (**permalink**) 02-10-2007, 09:33 AM

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I'm shocked, although impressed. You finally posted something that investors can use and benefit from.

Thanks...your turn now...

david.barrell · #**635** (**permalink**) 02-10-2007, 09:56 AM

I agree with you

berty · #**636** (**permalink**) 02-10-2007, 10:13 AM

I also think this is quite interesting information regarding the dummy companies and address’s GPP set up that others may also find interesting

Some interesting facts

The cheques were to be sent to 27 Old Gloucester Street London which is a virtual office mail box address

This is the company that sells the virtual office space at 27 old Gloucester Street, London

PO Box, British monomarks, London PO Box Number, Mail Forwarding, Company registered address, Telephone answering, Virtual office

This is the name of the company on the Estonian bank account

Beneficiary: SOCIETE GENERALE DE GESTION S.A.
IBAN: EE52 0000 0093 2001 8540
Beneficiary’s address: Tallinn, Estonia
Beneficiary’s bank: TALLINN BUSINESS BANK LIMITED
S.W.I.F.T.: TABUEE22

This is the address of a similar company from companies house record…look at the address

https://secure.creditgate.com/search...BT=Full%20Data

The cheques were payable to

First Oceanic Trust

First Oceanic Trust

The Somali bank First Oceanic bank is at the same mailing address but no connection

First Oceanic Bank - Contacts

Interestingly the first oceanic trust website is totally plagiarised from information of the net just cut and paste any of the webpage information into google and you will see where it comes from

In addition the GPP registraint has been changed 294 times

Again these are just facts to add to the others I have provided

chicosan.....over to you!

david.barrell · #**637** (**permalink**) 02-10-2007, 10:29 AM

They say it is for everybody and real.
Anyway,I think $35 is worth the risk.
I`m going to join them.

chicosan · #**638** (**permalink**) 02-10-2007, 11:38 AM

[QUOTE=berty;241751

chicosan.....over to you![/QUOTE]

Why don't you grow up and at least put forth an effort to appear honest and maybe stop playing Owen games.

chicosan · #**639** (**permalink**) 02-10-2007, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by berty

Thanks...your turn now...

I really didn't think you had the mature honesty to respond intelligently. You appear to be a crap peddler.

chicosan · #**640** (**permalink**) 02-10-2007, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by LynnRE

Chicosan: Since you have stated you do not promote GPP, nor are you a member, maybe you can clarify these statements of yours, and I quote:

I also have[/B] a few trying to sign up Page 22

Total Members In our Plan: 92928 Page 22

Total Members In our Plan: 96483 Page 23

Seems to indicate you are a member and are promoting it by having people sign up.

Not that it's any of your business, I am associated with a large group and I DO NOT promote any program with them, although we do talk and expess opinions.......something that you do not seem to be able to do. You spout forth alleged facts and try to shovethem down everyone's throat. If they do not agree with you, you resort to name calling and ridiculing. Very intelligent and mature.

As for the "our".......use your brain for a change.

As for your non-endorsement of GPP, here are but just a few of your statements doing so:

"This is not the first year that GPP have paid out a program and it won't be the last. Saying that it is not something I would believe proves they do not understand how reverse pensions work.......and they do work and are legal."

And this means what to your tiny mind?

"Even when we do received payment, we will likely be bound by an NDA (Non Disclosure Agreement) that we would need to sign indicating that we will not disclose ANYTHING about GPP. The vast majority of corps online and offline use this." or this one:

And this means what to your tiny mind?

"Firstly.....RPPs have been around privately for over 5 years and at least one has already paid out as advertised (NDA). Secondly.....RPPs are not conventional TEPs, but an investment vehicle privately used by some Insurance companies in Europe and are legit."

And this means what to your tiny mind?

I look forward to your clarifying this for me.

It's not clarifying you need, it's a shrink.