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Look at "derivaties" Trading among the biggest international banks(top 25 world banks totalling 56 Trillion USD). As you may know,out of 56 Trillion USD, 51 Trillion USD is traded among the Big Three US Banks including CITIBANK and JP Morgan. De****e of the Huge Amount inolved in "Derivative Trading", very few people can underststand the mechanism. Hence, a lot of criticism. But they are legal. Nowaday, there are So Many New "Financial Instruments" being introduced, which are almost impossible to understand their "mechnism" for ordinary folks like us, or even to so-called "Financial or Investmenrt Consultants(Experts).
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There has been much controversy recently over derivatives, mostly because politicians, senior ****utives, regulators and even portfolio managers have limited knowledge of these complex products. The Financial Pipeline has introduced its derivatives page to educate our visitors and other investors on these complex instruments.
A derivative financial product is a contrived instrument, the value of which depends indirectly on the price of a cash instrument. The price of the cash instrument is referred to as the "underlying" price, quite often. Examples of cash instruments include actual shares in a company, physical stocks of commodities, cash foreign exchange, etc.
Why use derivatives and not just cash instruments? Derivatives exist to solve specific positioning, accounting and regulatory problems. These reasons may not be immediately clear to you but they will be after you read all of the derivatives articles on this web site.
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You'll never reach parity of agreement here on any program. The proof will come when GPP pays out and then the scrambling for
excuses among the ones who produced all of the info supposedly showing GPP as impossible and illegal.
Chicosan: We are not saying that GPP will not pay out to anyone, nor will they not refund to some of those they say do not qualify. What we are saying is that they will not pay out to everyone who has one of these so-called "special" policies. Just like PIPS, there will be some "winners" (meaning those that were used to salt the mine) but at the expense of many others who joined believing the hype. You cannot run a "successful" Ponzi without making some payments, or you cannot continue the scam. Of course "some" will get paid, just not everyone. Just ask Bryan and Sharon Marsden.
Chicosan: We are not saying that GPP will not pay out to anyone, nor will they not refund to some of those they say do not qualify. What we are saying is that they will not pay out to everyone who has one of these so-called "special" policies. Just like PIPS, there will be some "winners" (meaning those that were used to salt the mine) but at the expense of many others who joined believing the hype. You cannot run a "successful" Ponzi without making some payments, or you cannot continue the scam. Of course "some" will get paid, just not everyone. Just ask Bryan and Sharon Marsden.
LynnRE....Get your facts straight!!
1.Yes,,, they will pay out every member that qualifies...100,000 of them.
2.Every member will be a winner!
3.Salting the mine does not even apply here.
4.Your "at the expense of many others who joined believing the hype." is a bunch of hogwash.
5.GPP "IS NOT A PONZI" and as such is not operated the way you say.
6.What the he-- does Bryan and Sharon have to do with this?
YOU stoop to an all-time low trying to make that comparison.
1.Yes,,, they will pay out every member that qualifies...100,000 of them.
2.Every member will be a winner!
3.Salting the mine does not even apply here.
4.Your "at the expense of many others who joined believing the hype." is a bunch of hogwash.
5.GPP "IS NOT A PONZI" and as such is not operated the way you say.
6.What the he-- does Bryan and Sharon have to do with this?
YOU stoop to an all-time low trying to make that comparison.
Oh please, quit tyring to be so mellodramatic. It has everything to do with PIPS. You can believe this is real all you want, but interesting since you claimed you did not have a position in it. Makes one wonder why such a strong defense of a program you are not even a part of. I remember BM saying that the only way PIPS would not pay is if we had a global financial melt-down. I also remember you being one of PIPS strongest supporters. Well, the financial melt-down did not occur, and PIPS is closed, and BM and Sharon are in jail; and have been for over a year. Funny how all those "supporters" disappeared when it came time to post bail.
The similarities between these two are uncanny. You believe these policies exist based on a website that has so many holes in it I am surprised it is not based in Switzerland. The answers to the FAQ's are a hoot. Sounds like someone borrowed PIPS marketing material, but just changed the sections to fit GPP's "privacy" claim. When you have to stay below the radar of all government agencies, etc., have no phone number or address, and you cannot name the insurance companies "issuing" these "new policies," you have all the earmarks of a Ponzi.
By the way, if this is such a great deal, makes one wonder why you haven't jumped on this winning deal. Obviously it is not the money needed to join, but for such a strong defense as you give this turkey it is odd that you are not a participant. So just why are you so sure this will pay out to all 100,000?
Oh please, quit tyring to be so melodramatic. It has everything to do with PIPS.
I don't know what you're on, but I'd quit it if I were you before it's too late.
You can believe this is real all you want, but interesting since you claimed you did not have a position in it.
Directly I didn't, but several in my group of 1249 did have exposure in , first Pureinvestor and then PIPS. They all made a lot of $$$$.
Makes one wonder why such a strong defense of a program you are not even a part of. I remember BM saying that the only way PIPS would not pay is if we had a global financial melt-down. I also remember you being one of PIPS strongest supporters.
Oh, really! To coin the words of you all...."All HYIPs are scams", so what is so ominous about someone saying that they believe that a program like PIPS has a good chance of success?
Well, the financial melt-down did not occur, and PIPS is closed, and BM and Sharon are in jail; and have been for over a year.
PIPS is only another HYIP that failed for one reason or another. Was it a scam? Who cares?
Funny how all those "supporters" disappeared when it came time to post bail.
The similarities between these two are uncanny.
Similarities??? First....GPP isn't a traditional HYIP. You could conjur up hypithetical similarities about hundreds of other HYIPs, but that means nothing.
You believe these policies exist based on a website that has so many holes in it I am surprised it is not based in Switzerland. The answers to the FAQ's are a hoot. Sounds like someone borrowed PIPS marketing material, but just changed the sections to fit GPP's "privacy" claim.
When you have to stay below the radar of all government agencies, etc., have no phone number or address, and you cannot name the insurance companies "issuing" these "new policies," you have all the earmarks of a Ponzi.
Or, you have a consorteum or financial groups with enough clout tomake this work who do not want to have their program blasted all over the public forums by people with agendas that have nothing to do with the program at hand or the potential members. If you want to consider GPP a ponzi, so be it.....it doesn't mean anything to anyone.
By the way, if this is such a great deal, makes one wonder why you haven't jumped on this winning deal.
Since that doesn't concern you, I won't comment.
Obviously it is not the money needed to join, but for such a strong defense as you give this turkey it is odd that you are not a participant.
Where do you get this "strong defense crap"? YOU and others put on a much stronger claim that they are not legal and that it is not possible.
So just why are you so sure this will pay out to all 100,000?
In a group of 1249, it makes sense to consider that thre are some there who have had experience with them in past projects. While this is no guarantee that they will complete this project and payout, it is a good indicator. They never have and will not selectively payout as you suggested because they are not a ponzi.
Well I guess I fit somewhere in the middle. I'd love to believe this is the answer to my problems... So I enjoy the possibility. But on the other hand I'm not planning on it. I guess I'm a positive neutral and like to think there is a possibility of it happening. But like someone else says we will see when we see one way or the other....~
There will always be some happy and contented winners in the initial stages but more with losers and on a larger scale towards the numbered days.... a tendency yet denied and always will be for those that benefited literally on the thought and expense of others later losing out....
You'll never reach parity of agreement here on any program. The proof will come when GPP pays out and then the scrambling for
excuses among the ones who produced all of the info supposedly showing GPP as impossible and illegal.
Chicosan, I made a calculation based on 50usd for 720 days "trading" at a 1.2% daily profit and "compounded". The result is amazing. 257 238.62usd
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There will always be some happy and contented winners in the initial stages but more with losers and on a larger scale towards the numbered days.... a tendency yet denied and always will be for those that benefited literally on the thought and expense of others later losing out....
This only applies to ponzis and GPP is not a ponzi !
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