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Thanks Paddy for that transcript... if the author had not mention a weebit abt himself, one would think U R Chicosan.... too!!!
Thats some transcript for convincing... 130,000 members and the "IF GPP is successfull...." another true giveaway again... this is sure as fuelling hell... a Saturday shot & ammo for the coming feedbacks one can anticipate to roll in soon.
I think David with CEF will know better on how to see the loopholes riddled by this message... as for us, it looks pretty obvious who we're reading on. Great comedy for amusement... seem rather "spooky too....." but we need a ghost writer to confirm this eerie response!
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It,s a sad world yogi, and yes this is yours truly :)
CEF has been dragged into this sorry mess dispite repeated attempts
to have our log removed, plus the fact we have now posted a
disclaimer on our website, hence the poor blackmail effort from someone
who should know better.
It does not even warrant a reply.
Cheers mate, and how are you both ?
paddy
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Choose "Export to Microsoft Excel". The application will start, let it load and you shall see the message.
Let the inspection begin...
Important Notice.
NOTICE II.
Children of Ecuador Foundation has nothing to do with Global Pension Plan, or Globalpp.net and more related websites.
Please be aware about this notice before making any
financial decisions.
The last months and weeks we have been receiving several e-mails from several people from all over the world making questions and claims regarding an insurance website we knew about years ago. This people came mainly to us indicating and asking about our relation with an internet scheme known as Global Pension Plan, CEF has made its best to help this people on its questions and concerns, despite it is not our labour or mission to do so, but the need of making a second notice is relevant now. We want to clarify this situation,
It is with regret that we have seen the need to make an Official letter now indicating that Children of Ecuador Foundation or Breadforkids.org has no partnership nor any relation with this business or financial service offered online known as Global Pension Plan. Please note that we can not say if this is a legal or ilegal business, we can not guarantee anything, we have never made that, for any website or person. We are a charity foundation helping children in need in the amazon jungle and thats all what we do!
The Story: This people offered years ago to CEF an undetermined donation of money, but this offer was never fulfilled nor was set with this people any official agreement, and we believe they did the approach looking to gain your trust and misuse our seal and name.
Around 2 years ago they asked us to lend our Official Seal as partners after making a symbolic donation that was below 500 usd. We accepted such small donation because as a non profit organization we are allowed by law to accept donations or gifts from people or organizations worldwide wanting to help our cause.
The reason why we see the need to post this notice is to let everyone know that we are not related to this website known as Global Pension Plan or more websites, forums, newsletters or blogs, etc promoting this website or any similar offers, etc.
Our Seal regulations require our seal members to continuously support our cause and works, that active support will convert them into real CEF Sponsors. Global Pension Plan never did that and refused to provide any proof regarding its activities, names, addresses etc So we voided its seal application.
a) We never approved nor signed any documents with Global Pension Plan or his people as they never made a serious or legal approach to our organization.
b) Global Pension Plan never shared with us any other information than a simple free e-mail address from where they approached to us and offered to support our humanitarian cause.
c) CEF has never agreed to any form of official partnership with Global Pension Plan. Our Seal program shows only that a website is actively supporting our cause but thats is not the case for this Global Pension Plan, website.
They were in the obligation to use our Seal under our terms and conditions but this has not been the case. After several failed intents to contact them, again some months ago we asked Global Pension Plan to remove our Seal Logo but they ignored or never received our notices. We sent again more notices by all available means the last weeks and they ignored our requests again untill this date.
Our conclusion: This website has misused our identity and seal, they have failed to accomplish any promise made to help our charity efforts, no more donations except the first one they did and sent by an anonymous online system has been received from them. They are not approved by us but we believe they are actually using our foundation name for a business we can not guarantee is legal or not, is serious or not, is viable or not. As many of you out there we simple do not know.
In a last effort to find a solution to this situation we asked again the last weeks to them, to provide at least an address or telephone where we can contact them and verify they are a real Insurance firm or anything legal. This way we expected to talk about all the disturbing news, we were hearing, and clarify the situation, etc But again nothing has been received from them, not a single call.
This is very strange to our eyes because every person and organization that has contacted us before and made any donation, gladly provided its contact information available to us as usual in a reciprocal way. We understand that this is basic for any communication and in order to create trust. - About Globalpp.net administration they only exist online to our eyes, so we can not trust them.
We also want to explain our concern regarding some people using and taking the names of our members and foundation directors on their letters, posts and claims, On their incorrect assumptions regarding our non existent relation with Global Pension Plan, some people with no names and faces but mere forum nicknames have took and used our names to create stories, emulate profiles, name us as scammers etc. They appear to be doing that only looking to win some Internet discussions or mini wars at forums online, and continue to appear as if they were right all the time on its comments and statements. That people is not measuring consequences on their acts by damaging an organization image and its supporting members, they are just writing whatever they want in order to appear as the wisest person to its gang or group of friends but not seeing the real harm they are doing to our casue.
That is not fair and legal, that is doing nothing but attacking the wrong people and organization. That is simply finding someone innocent beside to throw its stones of anger, while they refuse themselves to see the reality here. Please focus your attention on the people that apparently is really deceiving you and not in our charitable members who have no more knowledge than you about this mess. Focus your efforts not in hurting a legit charity, but in finding the people that you have not been able to find or trace, that is hiding until now. We are open to everyone and we are not hiding anywhere!
Do not ruin those working daily to help those in need.. If you are a serious person with a good and honest heart help us to keep clean our charity name and its members or real supporters involved in our mission. We understand that this can happen because our Organization is the only one, that appear here as a real one, with real people names, addresses and telephone numbers to contact and talk to, and this is because we are honest people and we have nothing to hide, and it has always been the case.
We believe that our and your Foundation, The Children of Ecuador Foundation, CEF, a real charity is being abused right now for many people, our members being accused just for working and volunteering here, and thats is not fair. Our official Seal continue to be in misuse, sticked to that site (globalpp.net). Still we care about everyone out there and our Mission to help kids in need so we stand firm here in front of you with our hands clean.
There is not much that we can do as this people is covered in the web. This Global PP people appear to exist in the shadows only, and we simply have no way to solve this issue but we yes can help people again by providing our side of the story for everyone honest to know and understand what we are facing and have faced here.
We sincerely apologize for this situation, but we have done for several months all the efforts we can, to get our seal removed with no success. We thought that we where being approached for a real and serious business, now we believe we were not.
Please be aware of this situation and share this information wth any person interested in knowing about the situation we face. If you hold any information that could lead us to solve this matter please let us know by contacting us.
If you are the Administration of Global Pension Plan please contact us with your real contact information and clarify this problem for everyone!
Sincerely.
Mr. David Villacreses
Children of Ecuador Foundation.
Ecuador. e-mail: ecuador @ breadforkids.org
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Wasn't difficult! I think Mr. Gilder will soon have some explaining to do to his flock - if not to the authorities!
That sure made it obvious however, for my part and I'm sure many shares with my notion.... albeit Terry or Casper the Ghost to Chicosan ...whoever it may be.
We are looking at one common team out there headed by this other fella... if its not another sort of SGS (shotgun something or rather)... we'll stick then to Stella, since most are getting her name linked in all exchanges made... or no payouts as was the expectation, promised over & over... like an empty global poem...
Now... a recent post here below, strikes an even more interesting cord... just read and see how you make the connection and if you think what I'm deriving from all these... is Stella just another identity that also takes the form of a guy as well.... deception on all fronts and on all oceans it gets into.... This is about a chap from Chicago in answer to another from Down under... go figure where lies the facts and deception eventually... and more names like OceanWealth... this OW is another new dubious plan to my ears...hmmm.
It now makes me wonder... just how tuned-in are those here that openly stands tall with GPP are also involved with these others... one whole BIG camp of deceits... like a virus they may become and pretending with many of their innocent or shall we assume, naive defense postings as to how GPP works...
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Do you allow members like "username removed" to post personal attacks?
If you believe this person is out of line please remove his/her post.
Otherwise, I shall have to respond with the truth about the Oceanside
Wealth, Broker Jones and Team Avalanche. I will include facts from
unbiased folks such as Stella from STP who has this to say about the
Oceanside Wealth program...
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This is Stella, one of the owners of SolidTrust Pay.
The information presented in this post is not accurate and I want to publicly state the situation with OceanSideWealth and SolidTrust Pay.
1) OceanSideWealth has a fully bank verified account with STPay and have in fact already initiated large amounts of ACH transfers OUT of their account. Their original account, "bigbadboy" is NOT a verified account as the account owner has never added any banking information to their profile so we have nothing to check it against. Our verifications department has asked them to input this information and to date, it has never been done.
2) The company asked us to create a new account with a different username, as "bigbadboy" was not appropriate. I was told by the company owner directly on a phone conversation that they no longer wished to use that username, and that their programmer would be changing the script so that their API pointed to the new, more appropriate, username.
3) the owner (whom I have spoken to personally) has my direct, private email and I have not heard from him in over 3 weeks. He also has my direct phone number. We have received NO EMAILS and NO PHONE CALLS from this company!
4) we have received numerous complaints about this program from people requesting refunds. To date, very few refunds have been issued to STPay members and we have NOT removed ANY funds from either account.
5) NO funds are frozen in the accounts AT ALL. I personally created the new username account and moved funds from the original one at no charge and with no transfer fee.
6) I have left phone messages on the personal cell phone of the owner of this program and no calls have been returned to me.
7) secondary passwords are never lost or misplaced - if the user cannot remember it or has not written it down they do have to contact us for a re-issuance. Our security department has issued 3 new secondary passwords to this company at their request.
Their mention of lawyers and legal proceedings is just plain silly. Their accounts are NOT frozen, or suspended or anything and, as mentioned, we have had NO contact. All we HAVE had is a host of complaints and refund requests.
We have NOT removed ANY funds from this account and the admin is not answering my phone calls.
If this company wishes to use SolidTrust Pay they are certainly welcome to. But if they do not wish to use our services, it is NOT for the many reasons they state below.
I again invite any forum moderator or the company owner to contact me directly via phone or email. They have my personal email on file.
Any OceanSideWealth member with comments or questions is welcome to write: priority@solidtrustpay.com with any issues or comments.
Regards,
Stella
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end message from Stella
Note to "username removed"
You are way out of line and well out of your league.
I have absolutely nothing to hide. I am proud to use my real name in the forums
and I have hundreds of folks with whom I have been working closely for many years
who can vouch for my character. I am an industry leader who understands the meaning
of the words honesty, ethics, professionalism and responsibilty and I apply these
qualities in my relationships with others.
There is absolutely no truth to anything you have posted. I am prepared to disprove
your allegations and set the record straight. Since you have also attacked Jake's
character, I will mention that I proud to be associated with Jake Amedee who also
speaks the truth about Oceanside Wealth. For example, here's a copy of the message
he sent the moment he learned about the "secret launch" of Oceanside Wealth....
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Gosh, I am still in shock as I write this. You ever been blindsided? Well that happened to me here with OW. I have made a promise to my wife that I will not attack someone's character, even though they attacked me for no reason. I have never seen such a mess before in a launch of a business. I am also most surprised at how people treated other people in this business, stepping on heads to get to the top.
"username removed" and I were partners on this project and we set out to do our business with intergrity. Furthermore we have seen teams pointing fingers at other teams for the 1st launch delay. This program could never handle an official launch because the servers were inadequate.
Then the secret launch. That was the final straw for me. There were a few select teams that got their entire downlines signed up hours before the public was able to join. This was a very unprofessional launch. They said thet would launch Sunday. As Mrs.Vee always says "If you tell someone you are going to do something, you do it".
I am declining further involvement in OW. For those of you who think I am in it for the money you are wrong as you see me giving up a $30K + per month position due to my conscience. I wish everyone in OW the best of luck with your endeavors.
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Here is my warning to anyone who is considering the Oceanside Wealth program.
Words cannot described the deception and total lack of ethics that were displayed when this program was
launched. Do not, for one minute, believe the hype that you are seeing about this program. Most of the cheerleaders here are members of the Broker Jones gang. He is the one who conspired with the OW admin to conduct a "secret launch" in the middle of the night at which time they alienated about 80% of the folks who were prepared to join. You do not have to believe me. However, if you seek the truth, as you should before you join any program, you really need to review the information at the forums.
OW has received so many refund requests that they can't handle them efficiently. The following is a quote
from Stella at STP with regard to OW members who are requesting refunds...
"we are now being flooded with refund requests."
The following post from another member is typical of hundreds that I received right after the "secret launch"..
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...What the heck is this all about? I absolutely REFUSE to get caught
up in this...This is just WRONG and I don't think it is going to be
very well received by the public who were left out in the cold.
This is quickly turning into a complete JOKE. I could have signed up already
because believe me If you have a team email chances are i am already on
your list so I knew about this the moment it happened...But I REFUSE to
sign up!!! NOT GOING TO HAPPEN!!!
WOW a secret Launch..I am just
shakeing my head trying to figure out how Oceanside figured this was
the way to go..This just absolutely smacks of preferential treatment
and back office deal cutting..For lack of a better word the whole thing
just seems DIRTY.
When Oceanside first came on the scene
it really appeared to me that this would be a great oportunity for alot
of people..but looks like greed and back office politics got in the way
of that. I just can't endorse a program that does not provide a level
playing field for ALL.
I have my principles and I have my business ethics and they are not for
sale even for a top level matrix position.
How anyone with an ounce of ethics or professionalism can continue to
support this program is beyond me. As far as I am concerned, Oceanside
Wealth is history! There are much better projects to focus on.
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Were you shocked by a Taser or simply at the person or should you center your focus on the issue itself? There is nothing to be shocking unless you have a poor ailing heart and at worst, then you should stay away from the betting forums as gambling is a bigger shock both personally and to those beloved surrounding you in family....
But you didn't post on that I trust? I hope you are focused more on the culprits and their deceptive involvement which carries a far serious involvement than those addressing it to curb the likes of such crooks swindling the Net around the globe... so, WHAT or HOW are you shocked by it?
Pls don't use the phrase and term about personal attacks, this is an adult Forum and you take it as it comes unlike some cry babies that lose or ran short of credible arguments by falling on reasoning supporting their retorts in being rifled with personal attacks blah, blah... which is far from true nor have relevance to the subject addressed.
Please and I reiterate, "PLEASE".... what are you actually or honestly shocked about?
There is an old cowboy saying, that when your horse dies, dismount. Well, this horse is on life support (you can still buy more policies), and it is time to either shoot it, or pull the plug to put it out of its misery (the members).
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That sure made it obvious however, for my part and I'm sure many shares with my notion.... albeit Terry or Casper the Ghost to Chicosan ...whoever it may be. 
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